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Originally posted by melech_mike Anyone interested in reading well documented incitment and hatred towards israel and the jews throughout the arab world can access this website for access to what arabs learn in schools and what not! http://212.179.112.116/leket_hasata_en.pdf

First off... that document is a porno link....

Second... why are you trying to falsely convince us that the Arab world is bloodthrirsty for Jewish death?

Too me..... you are just trying to do what "those teachers" are doing in those arab schools...

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a Porn link.... far from it bud!!!

i'm not trying to convince anyone that arabs are bloodthirst for jews.... they seem to be doing a fucking good job of it themselves!!

Incitiment and propaganda!!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King First off... that document is a porno link....

No, it seems to be an arab incitement analysis document to me, unforteantly

On a similar note however please feel free to examine the following web site, which documents Palestinian cirriculum:
http://www.memri.org/

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Second... why are you trying to falsely convince us that the Arab world is bloodthrirsty for Jewish death?

First, keep an open mind. Maybe he is not trying to convience you of anything but the truth. Look at the link, examine it, critize and anaylize it, then come with a conclusion.

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Too me..... you are just trying to do what "those teachers" are doing in those arab schools...

I think Mike, is trying to show you the truth, "those teachers" do the exact opposite by making lies for it.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Cyrus, your wrong though here. Obviously such things are an element. But these elements do not lead to terrorism. In other parts of the world, civilians die in much more brutual ways, in more quantities, and also from superior forces, yet do not resort to terrorism, and especially not horrific acts like homicide bombers. What makes the Palestinian suffering worse then that of an East Timorese? Or a African during Aparthite? Or even the families of the very vicitims on the Israeli side of these horrendous attacks? So yes, the death of comrades does have an element - an element that the culture and brain washing of the Palestinian terror and government groups use to influence the minds of recruits into reoccuring such endevaours. But one would be hard press to link such a result to Israeli action, especially when it comes in retaliation.

so what are you saying? all people in this world think alike. most of these palestinians probably fear for their lives everyday (note: i said probably). you just assume what you think they think, when you dont even know what they think. i dont even know what tehy think. but something that israelis have done is triggering these suicide bombings. i dont htink this is an argument about who is right or wrong. personally, i think both israelis and palestinians are wrong for what they are doing, cyrus is just giving his opinion, dont come in here thinking you are all right and shit and he is wrong. most of us in here dont know what each of those people over there go through everyday, so it is just our opinions that we are throwing out. honestly, can you tell me you know the whole truth? i really dont think so, but enlighten me

killing yourself = a lot of frustration , lets not forget this , meditate on it.

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Originally posted by Eisbaer killing yourself = a lot of frustration , lets not forget this , meditate on it.

so how come the african slaves in america didnt commited scuiside in a large crowd? after all they were in a much harder situation then the palastinians and conisidering the fact that they didnt do anything makes it worse then the palastinians situation,so why didnt they??

its all in your mind

first of all correlation does not equal causation
second of all, they didnt for the same reason the vast majority of palestinians dont
finally, committing suicide would not be convenient unless you had something specialised for killing like a gun, or you had a really, really good knife. even then, you dont know how many africans jumped out of those ships.

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to clarify "correlation doesnt equal causation", it means that frustrated people dont necessarily commit suicide, but people who do commit suicide are frustrated.

frustration doesn't lead to suicide, but suicide is characterized by frustration, as well as despair, and anxiety.

the cause of suicide is more complex, it could be a mixture of parental conditioning and the desire to make a lasting contribution by "taking out" some of the bad guys, or a fit of vindictive rage, there could be many other reasons.


if it were caused more by conditioning to hate the government, and equating acts of terrorism with a likelyhood of going to heaven, i believe you could argue that there are less detrimental ways of doing this, so why go to the extreme? frustration

in the second case, there is nothing you can really do about it. you cannot go after the soldier who killed your brother, you probably dont know who he is, hes not in the most accesible part of town.
frustration


if i recall, many africans committed suicide by jumping into the atlantic. probably more than palestinians who have strapped bombs to themselves.

once settled in the americas, many found that they could survive. i dont think you can use an event in history that you know so little about to speculate human behavior on.

i dont believe anyone wants to die. that is the essential argument here. for a person to take their own life, THINGS HAVE TO BE REALLY FUCKED UP

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Originally posted by Eisbaer to clarify "correlation doesnt equal causation", it means that frustrated people dont necessarily commit suicide, but people who do commit suicide are frustrated. frustration doesn't lead to suicide, but suicide is characterized by frustration, as well as despair, and anxiety. the cause of suicide is more complex, it could be a mixture of parental conditioning and the desire to make a lasting contribution by "taking out" some of the bad guys, or a fit of vindictive rage, there could be many other reasons. if it were caused more by conditioning to hate the government, and equating acts of terrorism with a likelyhood of going to heaven, i believe you could argue that there are less detrimental ways of doing this, so why go to the extreme? frustration in the second case, there is nothing you can really do about it. you cannot go after the soldier who killed your brother, you probably dont know who he is, hes not in the most accesible part of town. frustration if i recall, many africans committed suicide by jumping into the atlantic. probably more than palestinians who have strapped bombs to themselves. once settled in the americas, many found that they could survive. i dont think you can use an event in history that you know so little about to speculate human behavior on. i dont believe anyone wants to die. that is the essential argument here. for a person to take their own life, THINGS HAVE TO BE REALLY FUCKED UP

you dont understand , i dont care if they wanna kill themselfs but i do care that they take a lot of innocente people with them

so to summery the palastinians kill kids the jaws and the africans that was under much harder situation and much unjustified situation didnt

THE END

you are right, it is unjustified

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This is interesting, are some of you implying that only Arabs are capable of terrorism?

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

This event revolutionized contemporary terrorism, and generated numerous copycat terrorist acts around the world.

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