I don't have much wisdom or experience in this...

but what i do .. is leave the decks aside, for a while... then just forget all about them...

then listen to other type of music... after a while... you will miss trance... ok.. yes... LOL... then listen to sum trance.. but not too much... just a few min sessions at a time... and THEN!!.. during those quiet times... thats when the magic happens for me... i start thinking about trance... and start thinking about what would be great.. like what would work with what...
but hold it there... listen to sum more trance in snippets and then you can mix in ur head.. like combos and shit... lol.. i know this sounds weird but try it and then email me ok!!!

Umm.. yeah... when you've reached that stage, thats when the real magic kicks in... then next time you hit the decks you will mix because you WANT TO an FEEL the musical vibes surround you... not just because you HAVE to mix...

Your best work will come this way... it does for me...

Remmeber... mix because the music moves you, inspires you to be creative.. not just to mix because you need to...

It may be hard @ first.. but after a while you will get the drift of it...

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Cause back before '99, U didn' give a damn about PvD, but now that he's pressin' platinum LP's, all of a sudden ur' into
his killer beat's! Ain't nothin' U can do to make it stop cause trance makes the world go round, so cut the act...

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i dont have much again to say to all of you but ....

THANKS



i tryed all those ideas and they were like the same that came to my head like mixing myself and then listening or stopping for a while and then trying again.
and that's another reason why i got pissed off mixing.
i tryed all the examples before and i still suck. but i guess i have to keep on trying.

DONT GIVE UP!!!!!


if you need to take a few days off then thats cool...come back refreshed and ready

it took me 2 years before i really noticed any progress

im positive your better then you were on day 1

maybe you could try trading in your cd decks of turntables...they are a like but have a different feel to them

keep your head up and dont ever give up

dont give up, and practice more, no matter how bad it may seem, you will start to get the hang of it
when i first got mine, i swear, i practiced like 4-5 hours a day, and it seemed like i wasnt going anywhere, but after a while you just get the hang of it, and then i had to start all over again when i practiced for mixing breaks (which isnt fun when youc an already mix trance), but dont worry, it will come to you

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Originally posted by DJ Arsalan IMO im pretty sure you seen some results, try listening to a mix that you did 3 monts a go and do a mix now and listen to it. Im pretty sure youll see the difference. I picked up on beatmatching in less then a month, the only reason it was so quick for me was because i played with beatmatching on the computer. Oh it was a pain in the ass, every transition i wanted to break my monitor .

What program did u use , cuz its still gonna take a month or 2 before I get enough money to buy my equipment, so i would like to start practising with beatmatching on PC

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Mhuhahahahahaha !!!!

Here is another thing that you can try that I just thought of Get out your favorite cd and go get all of the tracks that are on that mix disc. Be it by PVD, AVB, Oakie, Tiesto etc, just make sure that it's a well known dj and you like all of the tracks (or at least most of them). Then try to recreate the cd yourself and compare what you did to what the original dj did. This may help you to learn where to transition etc during your mixes. It will also show you different tricks that you can do too. My personal opinion is Matt Darey's Euphoria Vol 2 CDs. These two discs are packed with killer tracks and great technique and tricks.
You can buy it here:
http://nrgmusic.com/album.nrg?m=WW99155
Though, I'm sure you can find it cheaper SOMEWHERE

Here is a tracklisting:

disc 1
DSP - Intro
William Orbit - Barber's Adagio For Strings (Ferry Corsten Remix Radio Edit)
Moby - Natural Blues (Perfecto Dub)
Starparty - I'm In Love (Ferry Corsten & Robert Smit Remix)
Sagitaire - Come On (Sagitaire Mix)
Des Mitchell - Welcome To The Dance (Airscape Remix)
Delerium - Heaven's Earth (Matt Darey Remix)
Rhythm Of Life - You Put Me In Heaven With Your Touch (Lange Mix)
The Space Brothers - Shine 2000 (Signum Club Mix)
Private Productions - Sexdrive (M&B's Instructor Mix)
Tomski feat. Jan Johnston - Love Will Come (Original Mix)
Timo Maas - Der Schieber (Rapid Eye Remix)
Moby - Why Does My Heart Hurt So Bad? (Ferry Corsten Remix)
Flickman - The Sound Of Bamboo (Yomanda vs High-Gate mix)
Hi-Gate - Pitchin'(in every direction) (Original)
Moloko - The Time Is Now (Matt Darey Vocal Mix)
Digger - Church Of RA
Faithless - Why Go? (Ferry Corsten Remix)
DSP - Outro

disc 2
DSP - Intro
Chicane feat. Bryan Adams - Don't Give Up (Original Mix)
Transa - Supernova
DJ Tiesto - Sparkles (Original Mix)
Sasha - Adelante (Dumonde Remix)
Ernst & Ben - Provider (Pulser Remix)
Z2 - I Want You (Lange Mix)
Hurley & Todd - Sunstorm feat. 'Song For Guy' (Mike Kolgin Remix)
Tillman & Ries - Bass Fly (Michael Woods Remix)
Quivver - She Does (Quivver Mix)
Alena - Turn It Around (Space Brothers Remix)
Darude - Sandstorm (Original Mix)
Ralph Fridge - Angel (Quake Remake)
Dutch Force - Deadline (Original Mix)
Sanctuary - Sanctuary (Original Demo)
Matt Darey pres. Mash Up - Beautiful (Original)
Brother Grim - Energy
Aurora - Hear You Calling (En Motion Remix)
Sundance - Won't Let This Feeling Go (Angelic Mix)
DSP - Outro.

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When you dance, the DJ takes you on a journey, but he or she is usually not the focus of your experience at a club or festival or wherever you hear the music. Dancing is. Music is.

I got my decks 6 days ago, and i got 14 vinyls with it, all of different styles ( well all hard house / trance). I can already mix 18 songs together, not smoothly, but i can match the beats. Once i matched the beats and they kept going, i wrote down what the pitch on each track is. The only reason i could do this so quick is by using the beat Lights on my Mixer ( I no this is wrong, but it helped me) Now that i have got all the speeds down, i have practised a couple of times with them in front of me. Now i am going to remove the sheet and see if i can do it. I will be able to guess where the pitch should be, but i will be able to practise now to do proper beatmatching. I will keep doing this until i dont need the sheet at all. then i will try changing the pitch on one deck,without looking at it and then try matching the other one to it. Once i have got this i will treat myself to a load of new vinyl.

My method might not work one bit, but then again its only a sugestion. Just keep trying and mix when you feel like it or just like the other TA's said and it will come trust me!

Hey there is no wrong way to learn how to dj. Do whatever is most effective for YOU! Writing down which tracks go together is a great way to learn which tracks to spin when.

Another piece of advice I can offer is that if you are close to a beatmatch and the track is about to end, then drop your needle back a couple of minutes or rewind and give yourself some more time to transition through. Try slowing the tracks down in tempo so that they don't come unmatched as quickly and it will give you more time to beatmatch also (the track will be longer).

Just remember, when you are practicing, you are doing just that! Don't worry if it sounds bad at first, that is why you are practicing in the first place. This is how you find techniques that work well! Unless you are recording, don't be afraid to try something new because if you screw up, then rewind and try again until you get it close to what you had intended.

Again, make sure you use tracks that withstand the test of time. Ones that hopefully you will never get sick of!

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When you dance, the DJ takes you on a journey, but he or she is usually not the focus of your experience at a club or festival or wherever you hear the music. Dancing is. Music is.

Hey man:

You know I had the same problem a while back.

I wanted to learn so bad but no matter how hard I tried I fell flat on my face.

I got a friend of mine to come over who is really good at beatmatching.

He was a house guy. and he showed what he did.

I started picking up on it.

He explained the whole 4 4 structure and 32 beat rule.

Which I didn't know believe it or not.

He then taught me how to do it with the monitors and that helped so much.

So that is my suggestion get 2 headphones and a splitter and get one of your friends that is good to come and help you out.

It's kind of like lifting weights it helps to have someone to push you.

Peace bro.

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ok sig police please don't hurt me...

dj'ing is like any other instrument you can find....you won't learn it over a night...it will take time, and patience

hell I've played guitar for over 8 years and I can say that the first 3 years was horrible....fealt like I'd never löearn to play it good but after that it got better and better....


the same goes with mixing....I've had my gear for 6 months now and I've just learned to beatmatch fairly good...but still I need more practice


ohh yeah remember that it doesn't do anything if you fuck up at home....if your'e trying to do a match and don't succeed then rewind the track and try again and do that over and over until you get it right....always remember that no one cares if you fuck up at home

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

have you seen any improvements? even the slightest of improvments means you are getting somewhere, don't give up on your dream, that would be the worst thing to do. And 4 months is nothing, give it a little more time, I once met this guy whos a really big dj in england and he told me it took him 18 months to learn how to beat match but I listened to him and now he is one of the best and can beatmatch two random tracks in a split second

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"Something strange going down, everywhere I walk it's, it's like danger is walking along with me..."

It's been a while since I've read this forum.. Some of you guys might not realize how old TranceAddict is now, and how much influence it had on young DJs around the world.

When I first started reading this site/forum, I didn't have any DJ equipment at all.. I mixed with Traktor and Mixmeister. Now, I have a Thursday/Friday/Saturday club residency at one of Washington DC's most visible clubs, with occasional mixes in other places. I think I will also have a full-night (10pm-3am) residency on Fridays at a very posh 21+ lounge in the coming weeks.

Yes, it takes a lot of work.. You probably won't make any money in the beginning.. Equipment is expensive, and your day job must be solid so you can support this habit. But it does pay off if you're good at what you do. I mixed at my current club for 4 months for free, 2-3 times a week, just because I loved playing my music to other people.. Now, the door is open for more serious things. You get to know the promoters, club managers, etc. It helps a lot in the long run.

Even in a city like Washington, D.C., New York, or Miami, there aren't a million good DJs. While it's not possible to become the next Sasha or John Digweed, because they came into the club scene when it was still young and fresh, it is VERY possible to become a famous and well-respected local DJ. Just because the chance of you becoming a superstar is small, it doesn't mean that the chance of you playing at clubs, having a great time and ENJOYING this hobby ISN'T. It's possible, I'm a prime example of that. Just keep practicing, and remember to keep an open mind about the music you play.

Just two more words of advice before I go to bed..

1. Learn how to mix with the pitch-slider only. Don't touch the record while it's playing. If you want to have smooth 30+ second mixes in the future, you will probably start using this method anyway. If you can, learn it first and get a jump-start in your beatmatching.

2. Make a point of listening to different music every week. If you like trance, listen to house (even if it's only 4-5 songs). If you like house, listen to oldies. Do *whatever* you can to learn as much about music as possible. Imagine that you get a gig at a club where the crowd is 25-40 years old. 140bpm trance isn't going to cut it.. What are you going to do? Being a good DJ requires you to know EVERY genre of music, even if you don't like them/play them.. Until you get famous, people won't come to see YOU play. They'll come to listen to a specific type of music. If you are not able to play what they want to hear, it will be very hard to find gigs.

That is all. I hope this gets some replies.. I wonder, are there any other TA's who became pretty successful at DJing after getting their start here?