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hapamoto
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Canoga Park, California

or u could also bring in the track w/o the bass and throw it in during a "wave" or "sweep" type effect that is pretty common at the end of tracks, this way u use whats already there as part of the music to ur advantage, and basically during these effects where beats can cut out momentarily as part of the song, u just flip the basses so during that "wave" u turn down the bass on the live track and turn on the bass of the incoming cued track..

HERE is an example from the same mix in the above thread, its a transition between "mark norman - faith" and "the moon vs. the sun - sirius" (1:18 clip from my live mex 1-12-03) .. the link to the full mix is on my webpage http://djreel.onestop.net i'm thinking of rewording all of what i have typed as kind of a tutorial on how "I" mix, not something everyone may agree w/ or a style that they wish to use, but it should be nice as food for thought, or just a way to look at transitions to see if it works for u all.

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b|p|3m
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Italy

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or u could also bring in the track w/o the bass and throw it in during a "wave" or "sweep" type effect that is pretty common at the end of tracks, this way u use whats already there as part of the music to ur advantage, and basically during these effects where beats can cut out momentarily as part of the song, u just flip the basses so during that "wave" u turn down the bass on the live track and turn on the bass of the incoming cued track..


I just knew this trick. Sometimes it works good also with effects that there are @ the downbeats during the song (sorry for my language not properly technical ). This effects can work good to hide changes on gain and on the EQ like in your sample.

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hapamoto
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right on dude, its all about just doing things the way you like to and assuming they sound good, be creative w/ it.

Old Post Jan-18-2003 13:20  United States
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The Greener
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Vancouver

If you are a IN CONTROL, everything you do works. Its not teachable but comes with experience.

To say you mix like......??? I don't understand each song has different instruments so you pick and choosewhat you do and don't want.

To recomend "robot" mixing kinda defeats the creativity.

If you are know how to use the controls to an good degree can even create Flange and resonance type effects, Without the Effects..

Old Post Jan-19-2003 09:32  Canada
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hapamoto
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the greener, what are you trying to say? who is talking about effects? and what is robot mixing? i believe anything can be taught, so long as you've got the right teacher, however sometimes that teacher happens to be yourself. To say "its not teachable but comes with experience"
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Its not teachable but comes with experience.
is redundant because i know many DJ's who've been at it for a looong time and they still don't get it, and its not just DJ'ing, i'm sure you all know someone that has had a hobby or just does something forever but they're not good at it, experience doesn't necesarrily facilitate skill. one's ability to adapt and evolve or mold their skills will go much further than someone who has a lot of experience but still does the same shit they did when they started. I do understand what you are trying to say when you said:
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To say you mix like......??? I don't understand each song has different instruments so you pick and choosewhat you do and don't want.
I believe ur just harping on the fact that I tried to explain, as best I could in words, the process of mixing. but don't take this so literally as if there is a fucking handbook or manual on how to do this. Any person in the world who has ever done anything, for example picking their nose, over time has probably figured out a more efficient or at least better way of doing so. Thus, I laid out a general example for this guy to build off of, its up to him whether or not to take it into consideration. you are the one who is not gaining from my advice because when u look at things in a negative manner, u fail to see the possible benefits. and i have to assume you are taking me for granted because i'm just spitting out robot mixing advice. if any creativity is to be lossed because of my "robot mixing" advice, it is lossed by you because you could take what I wrote and make it better (to your opinion of course, but thats fair because everyone is entitled to their own opinion) and then tell me why my advice is bad, but at least offer a better solution. Otherwise, you have not contributed to the progress of this thread, rather just wasted my time by making me respond to your ignorance. I apologize if i seem crass, im just really tired and ur response seemed to be an attack on my part, if that is a misconception, please disregard this reply.

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