yep i can sure use #2... i already did it once, but its not the same
anyway... i wish there would be a Malstrom VST!

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Originally posted by DJ Fundamental Hey! Reason 2 is supposedly a real good bit of software. That's why I want it...

so your reccomending it when you haven't even used it before?
btw it was a good reccomendation

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Originally posted by bumbum ok let me brake it down for u fruityloops and reason are "toys" if u want to use proffesional tools use emagic logic which is only for MAC now they have stoped the updates for pc version use Cubase SX which is a powerful midi and audio prog also stienberg nuendo Reason 2 can be rewired in to cubase and used as a vst plug in

Ok, let ME break it down for YOU, that is an astonishingly stupid comment, i thought that after the flame you got last time for saying that you may have realised that you were wrong.

You DO realise that professionals USE fruity and reason in their songs, don't you?????

They are not toys, but very powerful pieces of software......

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yeah.. i agree with arctic

also... i feel that it is important to be comfortable with the software you choose... i personally think fruity is the best program for you to start with... it might not be the most powerful, but trust me, IT'S A HELL OF A LOT EASIER TO WORK WITH than some other programs...

but if you think fruity is just a "TOY" then you are wrong... many producers use only "fruity" and they can get out of it very professional sounds...

just think of it this way... would you rather have to spend a lot more time working on a song using a slightly more powerful program... or would you rather buy a cheaper program that lets you achieve basically the same quality... Fruity is not the most powerful program out there, but when you take in consideration that time = money, then fruity is a good solid choice.

just my 2 cents

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Originally posted by bumbum fruityloops and reason are "toys"

That's a very ignorant thing to say, and usually comes from someone who can't use them and lacks patience. I haven't used Reason much, but Fruity is great. I know Airbase uses Reason only and it sounds fantastic. I know members on this board have had Fruity productions released on 12". Many people do complain about Fruity and quality, I don't. There are many freeware Buzz and VST effects that can be put in the master FX channel and fix some issues easily.

And exactly what makes logic professional anyway?
I can't believe how some people really don't get it, It's not about what you have - it's about how you use it.

I don't think I'll even bother replying to arguments of this kind in the future:

"Use Logic and Cubase and you'll become a professional producer in 10 minutes."

"Professional producers use Logic, I must use it!"

"Music can't be made without hardware!"


Cheers.

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Originally posted by kewlness yeah.. i agree with arctic also... i feel that it is important to be comfortable with the software you choose... i personally think fruity is the best program for you to start with... it might not be the most powerful, but trust me, IT'S A HELL OF A LOT EASIER TO WORK WITH than some other programs... but if you think fruity is just a "TOY" then you are wrong... many producers use only "fruity" and they can get out of it very professional sounds... just think of it this way... would you rather have to spend a lot more time working on a song using a slightly more powerful program... or would you rather buy a cheaper program that lets you achieve basically the same quality... Fruity is not the most powerful program out there, but when you take in consideration that time = money, then fruity is a good solid choice. just my 2 cents

good point Icarus, and kewlness.

fruity is a powerful piece of software, whatever a few ignorant people may say...

Fruity and reason (buzz & orion as well for that matter) are all high quality pieces of software, whilst cubase, logic and sonar are often seen as more "professional" pieces of software, fruity, reason and alike CAN do most things that they can do, as well as much more.

Cosmicman said in an interview that he uses both fruity and reason in his productions, as have many other "pro's". eg: Guvver is signed to tidy traxx in the UK, and he uses FRUITY ALONE.

"Music can't be made without hardware!"

I HATE that one

that's MY 2 cents :P

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Originally posted by Icarus That's a very ignorant thing to say, and usually comes from someone who can't use them and lacks patience. I haven't used Reason much, but Fruity is great. I know Airbase uses Reason only and it sounds fantastic. I know members on this board have had Fruity productions released on 12". Many people do complain about Fruity and quality, I don't. There are many freeware Buzz and VST effects that can be put in the master FX channel and fix some issues easily. And exactly what makes logic professional anyway? I can't believe how some people really don't get it, It's not about what you have - it's about how you use it. I don't think I'll even bother replying to arguments of this kind in the future: "Use Logic and Cubase and you'll become a professional producer in 10 minutes." "Professional producers use Logic, I must use it!" "Music can't be made without hardware!" Cheers.

i use fruity, for 4 yrs, its a very solid and good soft. but u must understand, there are things in logic u can do in minutes that u would do in fruity in hours, and offcourse theres the opposite, things that r shorter in fruity
the major thing is that logic has a very advanced mixer and sequencer, and on the other hand fruity is very comfort... soo just use ur favorite

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Hey ho, only the 2452387th thread about this...

LOL

I've used Reason and Fruity and I have to vote for FL Studio (aka Fruityloops) as my favorite. Very versatile and easy to learn. Granted, there were a few bumps in Fruity that took a little getting used to, but they were minor compared to the benefits and ease of everything else in FL. Reason....well, Reason just doesn't click with me. I think Reason is really good for people who have experience with the actual components that are mimiced on it and want to crossover to computers. But for someone who never used these things, it's overly complicated. I swear, I can do things in FL in five seconds that take ten or twenty minutes to do in Reason. To be fair, I only used Reason 1, but I hear Reason 2 is ver similar. But, to each his own. People can argue this until the cows come home and never arrive at any resolution. Just give a bunch of demos a try and see which one clicks with you. Like I said above, Reason will probably be a little easier for you if you have experience with the components.

Reason + Cubase sx together.

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Well I would recommend using reason and cubase sx together because it allows the brilliant sounds of reason and all its innovative wiring techniques. But using it with cubase allows the use of vst effects and synths with ease. Also that comment about reason being a tool is total stupid. Liam Howlett from the prodigy now uses reason and 50% of all his tracks on the new album due out in june/july were made in reason.
This shows that the top pros use it.

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Originally posted by Thpus Also that comment about reason being a tool is total stupid. .

You mean toy I think.. LOL

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