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Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan I think that could've been me....... or Ste The point is that tiesto especially seems to be milking his 'number 1' slot, it was not his best year, and he knows it The thing is tho, this is just our opinions, and like that tiesto thing was proven to be false, and possibly a publicity stunt from him, and the tunes he's remixing now like Madonna show me he's going for more $$$ than making a tune for the people, who are the ones who made him what he is, if no1 bought his early stuff or supported him he'd be a nobody.[QUOTE] Yeah, but thats true of any DJ, if no one bought or supported PvD or Armin he wouldn't be anyone either. I don't really think it's his best year either, but personally I'm happy that someone outside the UK won the award for once. [QUOTE]I think also everyone is entitled to opinions BUT there are a lot of ones, mainly from prog heads who think they're above us cos we dont listen to what they do, and I take offence when they slag our styles off but couldn't name 10 good songs in such a genre, and that's when I'll argue a case, cos no1, regardless of tastes, is better than ne1 else here

Yeah, I'm not starting another one of those progressive vs. trance threads, but I'm a big fan of progressive, and I think anybody who goes up to a trance fan and says "trance is shit, progressive rules" is a loser. It's just taste and difference of oppinion, not if ones "better" than the other. You think after arguing about it 50 million times people would learn that

Anyways, that's all I have to say.

lol... no-one likes PvD?

give me a break, PvD is the biggest bandwagon since the birth of captain birdseye.

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true but im making it because of a valid point..... your continuing this for sum unknown reason...... but anyways im off to bed to dream of little aborigines ppl making love to saddam husseins bottom... beacause as of now, thats where i rate you inbred ppl...... good nite

now thats just damn distasteful
only inbreds in australia reside in tasmania and the politically correct term is Aboriginals (note the capital letter)

here in australia it is a pastime to cut down tall poppy's but i reckon tiesto is as melbournians would say "da barrah"

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Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan from prog heads who think they're above us cos we dont

dont generalize


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tiesto is getting better ...this expiremental phase is good for him

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5. Armin Van Buuren - Shivers (Christian Webber Mix)

One of the major problems is, people think an opinion is only valid if it's a positive one, and that negative opinions are either bandwagon jumping or lack of knowledge.

We're all different, live with it. A lot of people don't like the way some of the big-name DJ's are heading with their music and they've every right to express that opinion.

As for the two you mentioned,

PvD: Has always been an average producer, don't like a lot of what he plays, technically very good on the decks.

Tiesto: Went downhill after his Radio 1 EM, loved his set at Gatecrasher NEC in Novemeber and hopefully he'll get back on form and stop acting like a pop star. I blame the downward sprial of the Dutch Trance industry and America (they love a celebrity ).

My opinions ladies and gentlemen, deal with em as you please

so true after his em, he has gone downhill. I've seen it live but there are always other deejay who will step up or play well.

the bigger they are the harder they fall.

i think alot of it has to do with how famous the dj becomes. because if you take for instance pvd or tiesto they are know for playing for an angel & urban train which the croweds want to hear when they come to town which makes that 1 extra new track that the dj cant play. They are victims of their own fame that brings them money but halts their progression because there always stuck with playing those tracks.

+ playing 120 gigs a year dosent leave a dj with much time to listen to new records .


also on a side note trance has always suffered from the golden year "99" bug.I dont think you hear house or other genres asking for the glory years to come back and that the producers go back to ye old times. maybe it's exhausted and needs new blood. i see very few trance producers pushing new boundries but if they do they get the "fuck off wheres the breakdown and uplifting synths". the remakes of classic tracks is a disgrace and just adds fuel to the fire that trance while good music has failed to produce anything groundbreaking for awhile.

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I respect of the points made. But sometimes (in my mind) there are bullshit statements like Tiesto can't mix, PVD can't beat match. I mean come on people is that really true. So many people respect them and for someone to say that they can't mix is just rediculous. Isn't there ability to mix well that got them this fame? So why make bullshit statements? I realize it's an opinion, but after stating an opinion like that you should also atleast try to back up that opinion with a descent fact.

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Iyeh but when dj's become "rock stars" they need someone to tell them that they should get their nose out of the coke bowl

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i LOVE all of em espically tiesto.

oh and i hate it so much when they bash Oakenfold, come one ppl.

He changed his genre because of his love for the music, he is experincing new things.

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Originally posted by morninglory there are bullshit statements like Tiesto can't mix ... I mean come on people is that really true. So many people respect them and for someone to say that they can't mix is just rediculous. Isn't there ability to mix well that got them this fame? So why make bullshit statements?

Well, if you had taken the time to listen to any of DJ Tiësto's recent broadcasts, you would realize that his technical mixing ability is quite poor. I can name many, many DJs who are better than him (technically) at what they do. What gets the big name DJs where they are is connections. Knowing the right people, getting that 'in' at a club, getting noticed. The best man doesn't necessarily always get the job.