LOL, didn't know that about Lybia and Iraq. Well, I'll agree that in the UN some things aren't working as they should and that it should go through a reform of some sort, but still, I calling it anti-semitic organization is a bit too harsh.

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Originally posted by Blik Israel will never be in the Security Council because it doesn't obey to a lot of UN treaty's (spelling...)

If you'd actually READ those treaties u wouldn't have made such a remark. Go on and read 224 for example: You'll clearly see how it requires actions from BOTH sides. Yes it tells Israel to leave "territories occupied in the recent war (1967) but also underlines that this can only be the case, when peace and security between Israel and the Arabs is achieved. That has certainly not been the case yet.

Suppose the UN would pass a resolution which called for China's withdrawal from Tibet, or for an independent Kurdistan in Anatolia. Would they obey? Whould some1 give a fuck?

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Originally posted by TranceGiant If you'd actually READ those treaties u wouldn't have made such a remark. Go on and read 224 for example: You'll clearly see how it requires actions from BOTH sides. Yes it tells Israel to leave "territories occupied in the recent war (1967) but also underlines that this can only be the case, when peace and security between Israel and the Arabs is achieved. That has certainly not been the case yet.

but when Iraq ignores one treaty they should be bombed

notice the double standard...?

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god damn it! Didn't you understand what I tried to point out? I said that BOTH parties had to act in a certain way in order to "obey" to the resolution. Israel cannot be blamed alone!
In Iraq's case it's simple: No other party whatsoever is involved, it' just what Iraq itself has to do.

But the UN and Israel is a too messy issue, after the "racism" conference in South Africa 2 years ago I simply don't care bout them anymore. Do you know what mobbing is? Remember that little guy with glasses and claculator in his pockets who was kicked and puhsed by the entire class? Well as you see even in international politics such beahvior exists.

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Well, the UN has to be composed with leaders with different opinions, so such views can be then explained or exposed to the others. If everything was like ISRAEL and USA want it to be, without looking at the other side of the coin.. there wouldnt be a point nor balance in power. Anit Sementism is too strong of a world.
Im wondering, if the US does not give any aids ( the 14 billions it gives to Israel) .. would the israelies still be on the US side ? ? .... just a question as to where one stands, and looks at the different situations .

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yes its part of Asper's family proprieties... the biggest zionist in Canada... obliging his newspaper to devote one editorial per week to be pro-israel... yes free media my ass.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek yes its part of Asper's family proprieties... the biggest zionist in Canada... obliging his newspaper to devote one editorial per week to be pro-israel... yes free media my ass.

When it comes to the middle east I'm not pro-Israel or pro-anything for that matter but how about this ... instead of critisizing the newspaper and calling it a zionist propoganda tool why don't you prove your claims by showing us how the article is false or misleading ... and please provide sources.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Go on and read 224 for example: You'll clearly see how it requires actions from BOTH sides.

Thats 242 buddy ;-) Just pointing it out incase someone actually wants to go read the thing (I've done many a times), though I somehow doubt this lot would want to...

But Israel has not violated many UN security council resolutions, particularly because US holds VETO power on the security council and makes sure they never ask for something completely unexceptable to Israel like "take a gun and go kill yourself" as the general assembly seems to do sometimes.

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Originally posted by occrider When it comes to the middle east I'm not pro-Israel or pro-anything for that matter but how about this ... instead of critisizing the newspaper and calling it a zionist propoganda tool why don't you prove your claims by showing us how the article is false or misleading ... and please provide sources.

that's old news, it was one of the sub-debate when the asper owned company wanted to have one common editorial per week (then later 3) in all its newspaper all over canada... this created a huge turmoil in Canada.

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I aswell would like you to show me how this article is falsified.
Please and thank you.

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that's old news, it was one of the sub-debate when the asper owned company wanted to have one common editorial per week (then later 3) in all its newspaper all over canada... this created a huge turmoil in Canada.

I wasn't aware of that. i did know that it was owned by the Asper family, but didn't know it created huge turmoil throughout Canada. Please show me what turmoil it caused. I'm surprised i'm not aware of this.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek that's old news, it was one of the sub-debate when the asper owned company wanted to have one common editorial per week (then later 3) in all its newspaper all over canada... this created a huge turmoil in Canada.

Well it's old news to you maybe because you live there ... but it's not to the people on this forum whom you are trying to convince. So please enlighten us as to how this article is fake and what are the sources that back your point up? Right now we have the statements made by the Toronto Sun vs. your statements. No offense but since you haven't really given any backing to your arguments, at this point in time I'm more inclined to believe the Toronto Sun.