I'm not going to even comment on that. Let's just say that if you don't like a political forum, DON'T VISIT IT!

i love this forum, the only thing im not happy about is the fact that i dont have as much time to spend here as i'd like.

but in general, i dont feel this forum has 'degenerated'. its all a flow that goes through cycles... new people come in, old ones leave, and the stubburn (or addicted) ones stay. the forum just adapts to the people who participate in it.

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This was referring actually to ICQ, always adding features and stuff and personally I never used any of them. Returning to the subject here, I don't feel a trance website should really have any offical time wasted on the likes of a political forum. WHILE IT IS ENJOYABLE FOR SOME TO POST, OTHERS TO WATCH, and some to just say close it down, ultimately, what has been going on is what will happen.

But the thing with ICQ is that is using up your resources, so it is harming you in some way. This forum is not, so I don't see your problem. It is not bothering you in any way unless you decide to get involved in it. Besides, since there are already forums that have nothing to do with trance (chillout room, gaming, sports, humour, polls-everything else,...) a political discussion forum shouldn't be such a problem. Unless you want all those forums closed too and make this site a trance discussion site only.

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Most people here just post to vent themselves. Atleast this is what it has turned into. I can't see how its possible to have objective solid conversations here, when I post something, and then its torn apart by people who are obviously anti-semitic, which thus turns me to want to flame them for their lies, which may penetrate the objective guys views!!!

It is not true that most people are posting here to vent themselves. Do not judge by yourself. Nobody here is antisemitic, just because somebody here isn't supporting every move Sharon makes doesn't mean he's antisemitic. You declare everyone who says something against the current jewish government (not the jews in general) as antisemitic. Besides, those statements are coming from a person that has declared himself as ultra-rightwing. Not many people are ultra-rightwing, so no wonder not many support you. Also, you should learn to behave and to talk in a non-insulting way if you want anyone to consider your views.

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Originally posted by Izzy i love this forum, the only thing im not happy about is the fact that i dont have as much time to spend here as i'd like. but in general, i dont feel this forum has 'degenerated'. its all a flow that goes through cycles... new people come in, old ones leave, and the stubburn (or addicted) ones stay. the forum just adapts to the people who participate in it.

ya.. its like this forum has a life force of its own...

now its just going through some "adolecent" problems... leave it be, it will soon ger over them.

finally well said chap.


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Originally posted by TranceGiant the mods are starting to lose patience. Seems as if they're fed up with the current status of this forum. And to be honest, I'm on their side. I remember how the first threads were full of interesting discussions on a very high level and the atmosphere was one of mutual respect. Philosophical and sociopolitical topics dominated (such as drugs, anarchy, freedom, pacifism and globalization) and every post was an intellectual challenge. What happened? This forum simply turned into a USA/Israel/Iraq/Palestine post-orgy, full of insults and attacks. Totally destructive, never-ending threads about the same aubjects. Since I really like this forum (my favourite one after the germany one; I even prefer-ED it to the chill out room) I don't want it to be closed. Especially after the huge effort that was made in order to have it created. So: What happened to the likes of Trancaholic, Cortexbomb etc.? Why can't we get back to more abstract, but surely more interesting and peaceful discussions like the Nihilism debate going on in the chill out room? Big historians and philosophs of this forum, you know who you are, let's get the "political" forum back on track!

I agree 100%. I come in here and all I see is Iraq/USA/Palestine/Isreal debates. Like I said in my previous posts, there are more things happening in this world. It will be interesting to see what the mods decide to do.

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Originally posted by Konijn Island I'm just a newb, but it seems unrealistic--if not counterproductive--to have a "politics" forum and expect people not to comment on the issue which is currently dominating our social and political discourse. My 2C...

Okay, the point is that people in this forum have been talkin about the same old shit forever. I agree with everyone else, it's about time we cleaned this forum up and actually started respecting each other. Hell, we're all tranceAddicts, and that's all that matters, let's never forget that. On these boards, you aren't black or white, christain or jewish or whatever else. We have to remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that other people should seriously consider these opinions. The IQ of this forum has been going down fast, let's bring it back up!!!

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Originally posted by occrider Doesn't anybody find that the other forums are simply too big? You make a posting in teh morning and then you have to go to page 2 or 3 by night because there are a billion new threads since then. I find that participation is a lot easier here since the number of people here is actually manageable. Kind of like regional forums except better in my opinion! To close down a popular forum because of a few bad eggs and a few overheated arguments would be a shame. Maybe we should set up our own internal police force to keep people in line. Like PM the hell out of excessive flamers to tell them to shut up. Anyway if this forum were to close down I'd be a lot more bored at work ...

Hear hear!



For DrummeRaver86 and those who say that the "IQ of this forum is declining," please keep in mind that the current situation in the world today is really revolving around the Iraq crisis for a good reason! There are many idealogical principles (legitimacy, for one), and many very important organizations (UN *cough*) that are at stake here. Clearly this would be reflected by a rise in interest in this state of affairs on discussion boards such as this forum.

Other threads do indeed pop up, and when this crisis is over, eventually, we'll see a more mixed offering. In any case I am very much in support of this forum, for the sheer amount of intellectual stimulation.

If there were more places like this, where people can discuss in all fairness with one another and express their views and - yes, even argue a little (which is healthy) - the world would be a better place (however slightly).

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Your last post in no way, shape, or form disagreed with my and other's opinion that the IQ of this forum is indeed declining. So, apart from all the fancy language and shit, what the fuck does the IQ of this forum have anything to do with UN decisions? What were you trying to say? PLease clear this up ASAP!