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Etherium
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What is with North Korea saying that the US is plotting an attack against them? Is this a cry for attention or is there any legitimacy to what they are saying?


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Old Post Mar-10-2003 06:06  United States
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i wonder if n.korea is next in line of georges purging of weapons of mass destruction, highly unlikely, like all bullies he'll push around who he can......ahh LOL the irony is too much


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- Now N. Korea is A BIGGER threat then Iraq, they got, or will have 2 nuke weapons, one or both are CAPABLE or FEARED to hi the US, and this crazy guy can do it.. I heard that the US will give up on N. Korea and let them be a Nuclear power, cause the US does not want to mess with them. But, since N.Korea is in need of money, they could easily sell their nuclear weapons... so why is the US still giving more attention to IRAQ instead? while N.Korea is about to blackmail US? huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Originally posted by LiquidX
- Now N. Korea is A BIGGER threat then Iraq, they got, or will have 2 nuke weapons, one or both are CAPABLE or FEARED to hi the US, and this crazy guy can do it.. I heard that the US will give up on N. Korea and let them be a Nuclear power, cause the US does not want to mess with them. But, since N.Korea is in need of money, they could easily sell their nuclear weapons... so why is the US still giving more attention to IRAQ instead? while N.Korea is about to blackmail US? huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


See previous postings regarding Iraq vs. N Korea. Just because Korea is a growing threat doesn't mean we should drop everything we're working on with Iraq. Also N. Korea is not restricted in any way from obtaining or developing nuclear weapons since they are no longer a member of the nuclear non proliferation treaty. There is merely a cease-fire treaty in place that does not place restrictions on weapons development or military buildup, it only makes the DMZ demilitarized. So it's not like the US can use force to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons. Iraq on the other hand IS treaty obligated and therefore a resumption of a state of war can come into effect if tehy fail to oblige by their promises.

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- Now N. Korea is A BIGGER threat then Iraq, they got, or will have 2 nuke weapons, one or both are CAPABLE or FEARED to hi the US, and this crazy guy can do it.. I heard that the US will give up on N. Korea and let them be a Nuclear power, cause the US does not want to mess with them. But, since N.Korea is in need of money, they could easily sell their nuclear weapons... so why is the US still giving more attention to IRAQ instead? while N.Korea is about to blackmail US? huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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See previous postings regarding Iraq vs. N Korea. Just because Korea is a growing threat doesn't mean we should drop everything we're working on with Iraq. Also N. Korea is not restricted in any way from obtaining or developing nuclear weapons since they are no longer a member of the nuclear non proliferation treaty. There is merely a cease-fire treaty in place that does not place restrictions on weapons development or military buildup, it only makes the DMZ demilitarized. So it's not like the US can use force to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons. Iraq on the other hand IS treaty obligated and therefore a resumption of a state of war can come into effect if tehy fail to oblige by their promises.


- I did see the previous postings, and yes I thought just as you, but things change every day. North Korea was restricted, but, they got out of that non proliferation treaty of which you talked about. Now, im not sure of if they are out of that treaty, it gives them the right to build nuke weapons?? I thought that N.Korea was NOT allowed of building Nuke Weapons, even if out of the treaty? I could be wrong. The truth is, in the long term, if we let N.Korea build its nukes, they will have the whole region threatened, even the US. And I take that as MORE FEAR to which we will be leaving under. That N.Korea guy is a straight WAKO! MANIAC! CRAZY! now thats CRAZY! I mean, he plays around by throwing missiles close to Japan, threatning that US ( SPY PLANE? ) .. mmmmm they need the money, so they might as well sell the nuke to terrorists as well, and those NUKES are no SAMOUD 2 missils eehhhh...


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- I did see the previous postings, and yes I thought just as you, but things change every day. North Korea was restricted, but, they got out of that non proliferation treaty of which you talked about. Now, im not sure of if they are out of that treaty, it gives them the right to build nuke weapons?? I thought that N.Korea was NOT allowed of building Nuke Weapons, even if out of the treaty? I could be wrong. The truth is, in the long term, if we let N.Korea build its nukes, they will have the whole region threatened, even the US. And I take that as MORE FEAR to which we will be leaving under. That N.Korea guy is a straight WAKO! MANIAC! CRAZY! now thats CRAZY! I mean, he plays around by throwing missiles close to Japan, threatning that US ( SPY PLANE? ) .. mmmmm they need the money, so they might as well sell the nuke to terrorists as well, and those NUKES are no SAMOUD 2 missils eehhhh...


There are no UN restrictions or US treaty restrictions on N. Korea from developing nuclear weapons. Hehe otherwise there wouldn't be a point to them being a part of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty right? Anyway I'm not trying to blow them off as a threat. I most certainly think they are one. But what kind of action can the US take to stop them? Invade? Nuke them first? These are all infeasible scenarios because the continent would plunge into a WW3 or nuclear holocaust scenario ... that conflict MUST be solved diplomatically. Eventually I believe it will because N. Korea is too cash strapped to continue its actions. I'm sure our intelligence services are watching their actions CLOSELY and any kind of weapons sales are monitored closely. Much like those missiles to Quatar were tracked ... I'm sure every shipment comes under close scrutiny. I know people are going to say its unfair that Iraq is facing military intervention because it doesn't have the weapons to effectively destroy the region but the policy of disarmament is about prevention. It's so another N. Korea situation doesn't develop in the middle east. Hell even I agree that it's unfair but think about it this way ... Korea has maintained borders and boundaries for over 50 years ... In the past two decades alone Iraq has engaged in two wars.

I too would like to see more time given to inspectors but I don't agree with the statement that we should drop Iraq as a topic just bbecause n. korea is showing some muscle.

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- I think that Iraq should remain under pressure, but we are talking about a country that its feared to be Nuclear power, and then the US wont be able to do anything. Like I said, they could sell easily those weapons to US enemies, which I think its a more assure threat for the US. What I do think is to atleast give more attention to N.Korea, I dont know, some direct talks or something????.. I mean, they have to be stopped someway or it will be too late. Its freaking nuke weapons here hehehehehe


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quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
- I think that Iraq should remain under pressure, but we are talking about a country that its feared to be Nuclear power, and then the US wont be able to do anything. Like I said, they could sell easily those weapons to US enemies, which I think its a more assure threat for the US. What I do think is to atleast give more attention to N.Korea, I dont know, some direct talks or something????.. I mean, they have to be stopped someway or it will be too late. Its freaking nuke weapons here hehehehehe


Very well ... I think that we have both have come to the conclusion and agree that more should be done with N. Korea! Hehe it was one of the reasons why I first started this thread. No rest for the weary eh?

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