Fuck me if im wrong here.. hehehe..

but aren't feelings and emotions which make religion so much better... im an atheist.. but ppl i know tell me they FEEL religion because thats how they interpret their faith.. they have like a 6th sense that god is among us and all... on that note...

if its a sin to feel lust..

1 - why did god create this feeling for this to experience if he didn't want us using it?
b - committing adultery in heart... now not even ally mcbeal judge judy can prove your wrong there...
3 - a sin is a sin only if its committed... last time i checked?
d - im not dissing ppl who are religious or believe in a higher being.. what im opposed to is how ppl seem to judge ... and im like... isn't it said sumwhere in the bible... "cast the first stone he who is free of sin..."

One thing i believe is that we are all individuals and we all have to accept our actions... wether they are right or wrong.. only you can judge yourself.. as you cannot lie to urself...

DJ Oracle.. signing out...

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Personally I belive Porn is getting easier to get hold of , like 30 years ago the internet was expensive and slow and getting hold of HC Porn was tricky these days you can see anything you want when you want , you could type in Google Dog Sex and prob a 200000 hits would come out , like ive seen everything there is possbile to see, and it does stay in your mind, overall , porn will always exist , and women are just as bad as men for looking at it..........

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This just reminds me of why I am an aetheist and why I fucking hate religion.

Looking is not cheating FFS. You are simply appreciating something that is aesthetically pleasing. You cross the line if you TOUCH. Its as simple as that.

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Originally posted by Orbax lol who mentioned the bible *edit* if you wish a philosophical debate i will take the stance that god and/or the belief in god is not neccessary for morality..and you will lose

This man knows what he is on about. I stand with him.

Let me also add Marx to this bit - who stated that religion was simply not necessary for society.
If you look at Calvinism you will see why - this theory states that only the christian way is the correct way for development and living. This type of thinking and indeed most religious thinking is damaging and is 99% of the time a prelude to conflict.

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Tell me, what the fuck is wrong with porn?!

Porn is great, there is NOTHING wrong with it, and everybody should have the right to look at it, because we are human beings with biological needs and unfortunately not everyone can satisfy them.

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Nobody forces girls to take their clothes off, they do it because they like it. And guess what: we guys like it too.

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Originally posted by bassaholix Fuck me if im wrong here.. hehehe.. but aren't feelings and emotions which make religion so much better... im an atheist.. but ppl i know tell me they FEEL religion because thats how they interpret their faith.. they have like a 6th sense that god is among us and all... on that note... if its a sin to feel lust.. 1 - why did god create this feeling for this to experience if he didn't want us using it? b - committing adultery in heart... now not even ally mcbeal judge judy can prove your wrong there... 3 - a sin is a sin only if its committed... last time i checked? d - im not dissing ppl who are religious or believe in a higher being.. what im opposed to is how ppl seem to judge ... and im like... isn't it said sumwhere in the bible... "cast the first stone he who is free of sin..." One thing i believe is that we are all individuals and we all have to accept our actions... wether they are right or wrong.. only you can judge yourself.. as you cannot lie to urself... DJ Oracle.. signing out...

1. God created attraction, lust is one of the 7 deadly sins. It is a perversion of the want to have a fully develeoped relationship
2 (or b). i dont get it, and ally mcbeal isnt exaclty a monument to morality
3. yes and you are committing the sin of Lust
4 (or d). There is absolutely nothing wrong with judging. People seem to think that Christians (you were quoting Bible so i assume that is who you are referencing) are supposed to be these "its all groovy man do what you are going to do" people. The Bible is hardcore. It says do not judge PEOPLE. Like Hitler and Himmler, and Chairman mao and tamerlain (sp?). The idea is how can you say you would be different if you were raised with those ideals and then given that power? You cant, so dont judge. You can however say that the ACTION is wrong. Im sorry, but there is shit that is wrong, and the only reason people espouse moral relativism is so they wont be held accountalbe for the shit they are doing that they know is wrong.

and people lie to themselves all the time. If people were actually honest with themselves the majority of the problems in the world would be gone.
If you need any more clarification, im here for yah

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excuse me, BUT WHAT THE HECK (not to use a more blunt word, out of respect) DOES JESUS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?!

saying something is absolutley and undeniably right because one religion states it is pure ignorance, people have different religions, so what one says doesnt apply to everyone.

i consider porn to be healthy, and if it is sick, then probably 95% of the male population of earth are sick fucks...
sure, everything with its limits, excess is bad anywhere,
but come on.. seriously.

at the end of the day, ill have to quote many others before me...

WHO CARES?! do what you want to do, getting all worked up on a messageboard makes no sense, you wont change the mind of anyone who doesnt want their mind changed, and even less will you accopmlish it over the internet. so everyone just chill out, good debate topic, but dont go crazy on eachother's asses...

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porn is quite interesting. i am in no way obsessed by it, or need it but it's fun to watch, just like tv, movies, the birds chirping up on the branch...

i guess i'm sinning. and i dont think i'll be apologizing for my sins anytime soon - i'm not doing anybody wrong, except maybe myself..

>JM<

Like just about anything in life, everything in moderation. You can drink and drink until your liver bleeds out, or smoke until you have cancer, or eat pies all day until your obese. I think theres a clear line between healthy biological urges and pure obsession.

Anyways, whats so bad about porn? Lets face it, every creature on earth is installed with a natural biological desire to reproduce. Theres nothing wrong with satisfying those urges in a harmless way, and unfortunately, not everyone has a girl/guy to help them out . Repressing them all the time isnt healthy, and people will end up doing drastic things to get rid of sexual aggression. Look in european countries like sweeden or switzerland where things like porn and sex arent strict taboo; their rates of rape and unwanted pregnancies are far lower than here in the U.S. And I hate to use this as an example, but look at the accusations of rape against the catholic priests. Or the teenaged mormon convert who comitted suicide because he couldnt resist the urge to masturbate. Its obvious that repressed sexuality is harmful. Btw, orgasams lower your blood pressure, reduce stress, and put chemicals into your blood that make you feel generally better all day.

So I dont see whats so bad about it. No one forces girls in porn vids to do the deed (legal ones anyways). Like I said, theres a difference between looking at some porn and being obsessed, filling your HD's to the max with it, and subscribing to dozens of pornsites annualy

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Originally posted by nrjizer Like just about anything in life, everything in moderation. You can drink and drink until your liver bleeds out, or smoke until you have cancer, or eat pies all day until your obese. I think theres a clear line between healthy biological urges and pure obsession. Anyways, whats so bad about porn? Lets face it, every creature on earth is installed with a natural biological desire to reproduce. Theres nothing wrong with satisfying those urges in a harmless way, and unfortunately, not everyone has a girl/guy to help them out . Repressing them all the time isnt healthy, and people will end up doing drastic things to get rid of sexual aggression. Look in european countries like sweeden or switzerland where things like porn and sex arent strict taboo; their rates of rape and unwanted pregnancies are far lower than here in the U.S. And I hate to use this as an example, but look at the accusations of rape against the catholic priests. Or the teenaged mormon convert who comitted suicide because he couldnt resist the urge to masturbate. Its obvious that repressed sexuality is harmful. Btw, orgasams lower your blood pressure, reduce stress, and put chemicals into your blood that make you feel generally better all day. So I dont see whats so bad about it. No one forces girls in porn vids to do the deed (legal ones anyways). Like I said, theres a difference between looking at some porn and being obsessed, filling your HD's to the max with it, and subscribing to dozens of pornsites annualy

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And FFS keep that religious/bible stuff out of this discussion.

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