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Originally posted by melech_mike Tranceaholic wrote: I am Israeli and reading some of your accusations gets me furious! WHAT???? Please tell me Where and when!!! This better not be some false accusations your pushing here! From what i remember, Moses came to Pharo and told him that the g-d of the hebrews told him to come and take them out of Egypt... with Moses guiding them, they simply walked out. Than many many years later in 1967 they attacked Israel, we won - got the Sinai, and gave it back when Egypt signed a peace agreement. I dont ever remember Egypt kicking 'israel' out!!! Please explain what information you have that the world has somehow forgot to document! For what again??? Not being your slaves in the time of Moses or for kicking your ass and whiping out your whole airforce before one plane ever left the ground in 1967? Dont hate on us... you started and we finished! If anything we should be mad at you, but we put our anger and resentment aside in hopes of peace (ie. peace agreement - land for peace). Your post was pointless. It didn't prove anything, nor did it show an opposing view to the article being discussed. You have yet to answer the questions posed at the end of the article. If you get too worked up talking about this (like i once did), perhaps you should take a break from this forum! Otherwise, please post comments and opinions with something to back it up. Occrider: Thanks for the article. offers a nice perspective of what happend in a light i've never heard of before. It can very well be just a conspiracy theory dont you think? Its very pliable though! A question i pose is why would Egypt move their forces to the israeli border? did they not know the tensions in the air at that time? What purpose did mobilizing their troops there have besides casting a threat to the new born Israel? -------------- I ask anyone to offer me answers to the questions of Mr. Farahs article!

well i wasnt gonna relpy to this thread anymore but my accusation isnt false..and the school's name is bahr el baar..attacked by israeli plane i have a video footage that would make you cry so shut it about false accusations..and about kicking israel out..well lets look at it this way..you dont have our lands or the sinai you wanted do you so that means u got out didnt you..and u got us good in 67 with a sneak attack but we got u back in 73 with a more sneaky attack..that showed we mean buisness and thats why we agreed to peace..i would lke not to hate israel but seeing as its the major pain in alot of peoples ass..and seeing what it did to my country before..cant say makes me love it too much...what the hell did u want from egypt anyway?

oh and by the way i am not gonna post in this thread anymore before all hell breaks loose anymore..and i can get u lots of bullshit sources like u do but i have a life..must be tough being from the most hated country in the world..best of luck to u try to prove how legit and good israel is..looke like u r failing misrably though..agin dont even bother replying dude..we all know the deal

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Originally posted by tranceaholic well i wasnt gonna relpy to this thread anymore but my accusation isnt false..and the school's name is bahr el baar..attacked by israeli plane i have a video footage that would make you cry so shut it about false accusations..

So you have videotapes of THOUSANDS of little kids getting slaughtered? Why don't you give it to cnn or al jazeera cuz that's the first of I've heard of this ...

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and about kicking israel out..well lets look at it this way..you dont have our lands or the sinai you wanted do you so that means u got out didnt you..and u got us good in 67 with a sneak attack but we got u back in 73 with a more sneaky attack..that showed we mean buisness and thats why we agreed to peace

That doesn't make sense ... Egypt agreed to peace because they successfully accomplished a super sneakier attack?

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..i would lke not to hate israel but seeing as its the major pain in alot of peoples ass..and seeing what it did to my country before..cant say makes me love it too much...what the hell did u want from egypt anyway? ...must be tough being from the most hated country in the world..best of luck to u try to prove how legit and good israel is

How informative ... thanks for your input.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic ok i am egyptian and seeing this bullshit post makes me mad..i just wish u could see what the israeli troops did to an elementry school where they slottered thousands of little innocent kids..make me sick...and you wouldnt know it unless u r egyptian ..i am glad we kicked israel out of our lands...i dont want to talk no more or ill start cussing..and all ur sources are us papers..and the us is israel's biggest ally...i will never forgive israel never

seeing a statement like this pisses me off... and I am not the type person to get angry easily. its people like you who give your fellow arabs a bad name/reputation. stop being so damn hatefull (if thats even a word, but you get the point)... learn to forgive and there wouldnt be such violence in this world.

just out of curiousity, when did this happen?

Just a side note, Switzerland did not join the EU, and Volvos are produced in Sweden.

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oh and by the way i am not gonna post in this thread anymore before all hell breaks loose anymore..and i can get u lots of bullshit sources like u do but i have a life..must be tough being from the most hated country in the world..best of luck to u try to prove how legit and good israel is..looke like u r failing misrably though..agin dont even bother replying dude..we all know the deal

If you post something, you should back it up, not just put up an accusation and let us do the research.

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Just a side note, Switzerland did not join the EU, and Volvos are produced in Sweden.

Ha, knew it started with an 'S'.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Just a side note, Switzerland did not join the EU, and Volvos are produced in Sweden.

Hmmm I could have sworn they had one of their country wide votes for something ... was it for participation in the UN? Also didn't they vote to get rid of their army? Yea I suppose I could look it up but you probably know already and I'm lazy

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Originally posted by occrider Hmmm I could have sworn they had one of their country wide votes for something ... was it for participation in the UN? Also didn't they vote to get rid of their army? Yea I suppose I could look it up but you probably know already and I'm lazy

NATO me thinks

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Aside from having several bilateral agreements with EU, Switzerland is only a member of the UN. And it's not even a fully pledget member, it just has an observational status. It is not a member of Nato or EU, since people rejected those proposals on a referendum. Even the referendum to have them become a full member of the UN failed. They still have their army. Aside from that, they have the Swiss guard that is protecting the pope.

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Cyrus, Demon, Az, trancaholic and the rest of you who blame Israel for occupation, i have yet to see any answers to the questions posed by the author of the article. Please answer! try to justify your accusations please... you havent presented a convincing case as of yet.

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All of this raises a few questions: If Israel is occupying those territories today, who was occupying them until 1967? If the West Bank and Gaza belong to "Palestinians," why were they under the control of Jordan and Egypt until June 5, 1967? If Arab "Palestinians" just want their own state, why didn't they ask for it before 1967?

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I asked my grand parents and my grandfather whos some crazy history guy about the middle east as a whole and if there has ever been peace there. I was basicaly told, When u have that many people in that small space attempting to live together but at the same time but seperate along lines of religion/mentality u will always have conflict. I was also told that the conflicts are generaly not as bad as reported to the American media cuz hype = $$ and the mindle1ss never ask questions but later vote for war based on misinformation. SO I CANT REALLY SAY MUCH CUZ ALL I KNOW IS WHAT THE BIASED US MEDIA TELLS ME.

There are always people saying "in 19** X amount of inocent nuns/kids/pupys were raped and killed by "X"country and this makes them evil.

WELL guess what, this mentality makes every country/ person living within that counrty evil devils. EVEN SWEEDEN. Everyone has a history. SO cut the cr*p. Ultimetly were all just trying to keep the peace. EVEN BUSH!!! so please no more tit for tat guyz.

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Originally posted by melech_mike Cyrus, Demon, Az, trancaholic and the rest of you who blame Israel for occupation, i have yet to see any answers to the questions posed by the author of the article. Please answer! try to justify your accusations please... you havent presented a convincing case as of yet.

That's a very astute question. You can't really blow that off as being biased bs since it's a question rather than a statement. If there is evidence of a Palestinian spirit of nationalism pre-Israel I would like to hear of this!