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Originally posted by whiskers the easiest way to deal with the problem is to blame it on someone else

I agree, thats my say

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Companies DO get bankrupt cause fucking idiots like YOU download WHOLE cds...Mp3s single files are fine but if you want a full CD then you buy it.

why don't you be more respuctfull and less judgemental to people her in the future?

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Companies DO get bankrupt cause fucking idiots like YOU download WHOLE cds...Mp3s single files are fine but if you want a full CD then you buy it.

and now you're go ahead and tell me that you are so innocent, you never downloaded a single album yourself...

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Originally posted by whiskers and now you're go ahead and tell me that you are so innocent, you never downloaded a single album yourself...

Of course not, i never download FULL albums. I'll admit by saying that i do download single MP3 files but it's to hear what the song sounds like rather than hearing poor quality samples..

FULL albums are where most artist recieve money, most people don't buy singles on CD but on Vinyl which cannot be copied so it's alright.

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The problem isnt that people are downloading music but that you are
downloading it and NOT buying it afterwards.
I know alot of ppl say "Im gonna download this and if its good, il buy it! Promise!",
but they don't. The second after they have downloaded it they say,
"Hey, I already got it now, why would I want to buy it?"

THAT is what is driving music labels nuts, and some of them, down
the drain.

I download lots of music, but I buy lots and lots too.
For me its just a good opportonity to see if L-Vee, Ferry, Oakenfold
or anyone else has managed to do a good job, I refuse to buy tunes
that I havent listened too because record labels release too much
sheit and a vinyl full of sheit aint worth it.

So, before you go along saying that they are full of bull and that
you would never have discovered trance if you hadnt downloaded it,
think of this, how much have you paid them back in respect and money?
Have you bought a full lenght album more then once?
Have you bought a cd full of tunes that you already have on your
computer?

Or have you just downloaded it and said "They should be glad mp3s exist,
otherwise I would never have discovered them!"

Well, if no one buys their music it doesnt matter if you are downloading it or not,
it doesnt bring any profit what so ever.

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you know, i blame it on one of the people i know, who was stealing cds. i'm fine with him stealing crappy metallica cds, but nicking trance is just outrageous. wanker.

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Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 I've said it once and I'll say it again...if it were not for the MP3 I would not have discovered trance.

ME TOO!!!
I sure if not the net I still listen to Scooter & such shit
When I saw Magik compilations in store & thaught : what da fuck is that with it's covers?! now I know that it was Magik compilation & it's really a magic compilation

I'm not too happy about, but what the point of raising hell ey?

I have just one thing more thing to say: I don't have anything against dloading a mp3, but if you like a track and you really respect the DJ then go out and look for some disc with the track and buy it. The producer may not get much profit from the record sales, but what is a DJ with a bankrupt label???
And for f**k sake stop dloading whole albums.I you really want an album go and look for it.
I like my mp3's but I like my CD's even more.

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Originally posted by solidi how did lighting records attempt to make profit besides vinyl and single cdr releases?

Bonzaï used to have compilation cd's(that's how I got into trance btw,my first cd I bought was bonzaï compilation 5).They had a few compilations,you had bonzaï compilation X,the bonzaï afterhour series, bonzaï loveparade collection ,the xtc-collection and some more series.Back then they were very popular(here in belgium,donno for other countries)But with upcoming other compilations,they started to decrease their compilations.It has been a while since I heard they released a new one,and now it's too late since they never will.

But still,I do too think that it's stupid to blame it on mp3 that they got bankrupt.Other labels would die too then,but they don't.

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Als er zo ene sta, heb ik twee woorden...Engelbert Humperdinck, ik rij altij me humperdinck daar wijk ik ni van af

Arrr.... wheder yous downloads a fool album, or yous downloads a one song....


we's all pirates, seee!

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I am a DJ and I spin only CD. That was not my first choice, but that is how is happened. WIthout MP3, I could not do what I do. I still support the labels and buy CD compliations and CD releases of my favorite artists. As for labels blaming MP3 downloading, that is a complete cop-out. The fact of the matter is if a label puts out quality music, then they will sell. I like many of the tracks that Bonzai has put out in the past, maybe their music is not as attractive to some as it was in the past. The same with some other labels.

I understand labels and producers having issues with downloads, but unfortunately that is the way this comunity works. That is the way we live today. One good thing comes out of it..People are listening to their music, enjoying the productions and spreading the love and passion for the music. Maybe it is time for lables to come up with alternative ways to generate money. Planning events, parties and festivals is a good way to generate money and get your name out.

This message may piss some people off, and since I don't know how to run a label, my words and ideas may be far off, but to me, this music is spread in various ways. To me, if the music is getting out there, that is the most important thing. If anyone agres or disagrees, please let me know your thoughts

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I just do it exactly the way I enjoy listening to it. This is most of the time it is with banging beats. It is even with a soft thing, a soft melodic idea, or whatever. I still like to have it rocking. Keep in mind what this music is made for, first of all. Its not made to be easy listening on the radio. Its not made to be easy listening in television. Its actually kick ass in the club. This is what music is. This is the purpose of this art form...to listen to it and let the frequencies actually blow you away. --Paul Van Dyk