Canadian govt just gave 180Million USD to help the Afghani.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hmm, just yesterday I saw Hamid Karzai on the tv, and he was saying that the US completely abandoned financial aid program for Afghanistan. He said that US doesn't care at all about rebuilding Afghanistan, and that Afghanistan government forces aren't able to enact laws and order outside of few major cities. Also, Afghanistan needs money to convert opium farmers into regular ones. Unfortunately, US decided not to help on that one either. Most financial aid coming to Afghanistan is coming from the EU. Such is also the situation in Kosovo, Bosnia, and most other countries recently struck by war. Ever since the end of the cold war, US attacks and brings down whichever regime it needs to, and then the EU gets the job to rebuild the country.

When/Where did he say that?

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Originally posted by rupert a better question to ask is how many countries has america destroyed or invaded. Either militarily - Vietnam, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama or economically - any country that foolishly adopted IMF structural adjustment policies. America has NOTHING to be proud about recently

and what exactly has australia done...if anything? enlighten me please

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Originally posted by Dupz Who's saying that the US is "helping" the iraqis? They're going to bomb their country back to the stone age, and fight house-to-house battles all through the country... How can you help a country by destroying it? oh, by opening up a few McDonalds stores once you leave, no doubt. Give me a break. Lets look at the situation in the balkans. Slobodan Milosevic's regime had been removed, to the joy of many people, but do you think that there is ANY pro-US sentiments in the area?? Hell no... Most people were a lot better off under Milosevic's regime (when they actually had jobs/food) than they are now... where their factories have been bombed, and agricultural soil polluted by depleted uraniam munitions.. The US helps NO ONE but itself. "Rebuilding" a country after a war is just a public relations campaign to gain popular support for their bullshit wars.

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Originally posted by ProDiGaL busychild, .. ohh how do i begin....(trying not to flame here) dood get a clue, then come in here and post something worthwhile, you have a VERY limited comprehension of the situation it seems. Till then post about drugs and music or some other shit you might have a better understanding of, if your young i can understand,...we were all naive at one stage.....

who are you to critize Busy's intelligence?..have some respect....

and why don't you go ask the French if they prefer Vece or Paris as their capital....i am sure they love Paris...or go ask the Afghan women and children if they they prefer school without torture or if they prefer having their clitoris' removed to lower sexual desire for any man other then their husbands or if the children prefer to never learn in their entire lives...and the list goes on.

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 and what exactly has australia done...if anything? enlighten me please

well they are helping in Iraq...thats a bonus

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hmm, just yesterday I saw Hamid Karzai on the tv, and he was saying that the US completely abandoned financial aid program for Afghanistan. He said that US doesn't care at all about rebuilding Afghanistan, and that Afghanistan government forces aren't able to enact laws and order outside of few major cities. Also, Afghanistan needs money to convert opium farmers into regular ones. Unfortunately, US decided not to help on that one either. Most financial aid coming to Afghanistan is coming from the EU.

huh?

"U.S. government representative Alan Larson said Washington would contribute $820 million in new aid this year"
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...afghan_donors_2

"The first two brigades of the Afghan national army are ready for deployment after completing 10 weeks of training. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2853845.stm
i wonder who they got military training and equipment from

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Originally posted by Izzy huh? "U.S. government representative Alan Larson said Washington would contribute $820 million in new aid this year" http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...afghan_donors_2 "The first two brigades of the Afghan national army are ready for deployment after completing 10 weeks of training. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2853845.stm i wonder who they got military training and equipment from

Haha you beat me to the punch izzy. I had that fox news article right on my screen ready to copy and paste. Here's some more from the article ...

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The European Union, which hosted the donor meeting, has pledged $432 million in aid until the end of 2004 ... Japan said it would give a further $500 million over the next two and a half years

The US is giving double what the EU is giving in the FIRST YEAR ALONE. I like how people do research before they present their theories

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81340,00.html

http://www.usaid.gov/afghanistan/

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Since September 11, 2001, the United States provided nearly $900 million for Afghan relief and reconstruction

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 and what exactly has australia done...if anything? enlighten me please

Good point, but we don't have the same means that the US do to help out around the world. Nonetheless, we've been involved in peace keeping missions around the world (I can especially point out here the oppressed state of East Timor that we had to occupy alone, despite repeated requests for US military aid) and in terms of aid, Australia provides slightly more as a ratio of foreign aid to GDP (1.2% vs 0.8%) even under our own version of cowboy Bush, John Howard. It's worth mentioning that foreign aid (from both countries) has been in decline for a long while:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11...ignaid-usat.htm
http://www.australianpolitics.com/f...aid/index.shtml

It should be pointed out, though, that I do notice the help that the US has/does give out around the world and that they should be commended for it. Nonetheless, even if we to take into consideration the $15 billion that the US gave out in foreign aid last year ($4 billion of which went straight to the armies of Egypt and Isreal) keep in mind the amount of money that private businesses (through the World Bank and the World Trade Organisations) are taking back from these nations (take a look at what happened in Asia when this money was pulled out) through the forced adoption of neo-liberal, capitalistic policies (through privitasation, the opening up of the stock markets/national currency etc). While other Western nations benefit from this agenda as well (Australia included) given purely the vast amount of investors it has, I'm sure that the $15 billion is cancelled out by the amount of private money coming back in from these same nations.

The US has the power to do a lot of good, but what good it has done has been shadowed by it's draconian foreign policies. That's why you find that so many people around the world are angry at the US right at this moment.

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Here's another example of the US abandaning countries after liberating them:

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Europe and Eurasia The administration requests $435 million for Assistance to Eastern Europe and the Baltics, giving priority to the still fragile Balkan states of Serbia ($95 million), Kosovo ($79 million), Bosnia-Herzegovina ($44 million), and Macedonia ($39 million). Assistance to Eurasia will total $576 million, with the Central Asian republics and Azerbaijan expected to receive up to $198 million.

http://www.usaid.gov/press/releases/2003/fs030203.html

who cares your all full of shit...it is all over the world now that Iraq plans on using WMD in the war....even France is saying they will join when it happens.....told you so