hey tiesto, aren't you supposed to stay away from political forums?? wait maybe some of us should msg the moderators and get you banned from here again!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King the world experiences 9/11 in different forms every single day... yet we dont hear about it.

examples?

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Originally posted by Renegade See here for the "myths" about Iraqi sanctions: http://www.nonviolence.org/vitw/pag...lity_print.html

From the site: "Myth 2: Iraq possesses, and seeks to build, weapons of mass destruction. If unchecked, and without economic sanctions, Iraq could, and certainly would, threaten its neighbors."

In all fairness no one can claim this is a myth (or a truth), it is simply an opinion. The fact that Iraq does possess weapons of mass destruction however is fairly well believed do to inconsistencies in those weapons which they claim to have been destroyed yet no one saw them destroy.

Furthermore I completely understand the horribles of war, however war should not always be of last resort and considered the worst thing to undertake, there are many worse things. Perhaps you haven't seen the images of Saddam's workings on his own people, as to me that seemed much worse then war could every be. Unforteantly I was unable to find some good links to such photos afte scouring the web for 5 min, but encourage your effort.

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Originally posted by Yoepus examples? From the site: "Myth 2: Iraq possesses, and seeks to build, weapons of mass destruction. If unchecked, and without economic sanctions, Iraq could, and certainly would, threaten its neighbors." In all fairness no one can claim this is a myth (or a truth), it is simply an opinion. The fact that Iraq does possess weapons of mass destruction however is fairly well believed do to inconsistencies in those weapons which they claim to have been destroyed yet no one saw them destroy.

I agree Renegade ... you yourself never replied to my thread stating that you are not assured that Iraq possesses nor seeks the capability to build WMDs.

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HERES WHAT I SAW U ******...THESE ARE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN NON WAR TIMES....I REPEAT NON NON NON NON NON WAR TIMES!!!!!

Why do you point out so boldly that it was during "non war" times?? The people who did this to your country have been fighting against every regime your country has thrown at them for the past 50 years. For them they were at war with you LONG ago.. all they did was bring war from their doorsteps to yours.

Chill out Tiesto14.. Irrational reactions are the reason we see such a vicious cycle of hate and destruction. And please dont continually bring up the point of actually seeing these terrible events, because i'm sure 80% of the worlds people have seen much worse. stop feeling sorry for yourself. it's not going to help.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Is that the best you can do?...LOOOOOOOL You are so sad P.S THE MANWHO CONCOCTED THIS MASSACRE WAS TRAINED BY YOUR MILITARY.....BY YOUR SOLDIERS!!

so what does that make it less then what it is or make it that we deserved it?....stfu u werent there...it was alot different in person....

Sorry but i dont want another 9.11....and if that means we have to blow up a Iraq then so fucking be it....the world will be a better place and America will be safer....some times people have to die for that....like my 3 friends died in the WTC.....i dont see you screaming for their lives to be saved....so fuck offffffffffffffffffff

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Originally posted by Dupz Why do you point out so boldly that it was during "non war" times?? The people who did this to your country have been fighting against every regime your country has thrown at them for the past 50 years. For them they were at war with you LONG ago.. all they did was bring war from their doorsteps to yours. Chill out Tiesto14.. Irrational reactions are the reason we see such a vicious cycle of hate and destruction. And please dont continually bring up the point of actually seeing these terrible events, because i'm sure 80% of the worlds people have seen much worse. stop feeling sorry for yourself. it's not going to help.

i say NON war times because thos people, some of whom where MY friends, where not soldiers where not on a battlefield, had ZERO warning...

They brought it to OUR doorsteps maybe soo....but now we will bring inside their house...

I dont feel sorry for myself...and of course people have witnessed worse....but does that make less then what it was?....did you lose friends that day?.....because i did.

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did you lose friends that day?.....because i did.

Sorry to hear about your loses Tiesto... it's a tragedy that shouldnt have happened, but at least their loss was heard. People around the globe have heard about this tragedy.. The world empathised with you, and your friends. But no one hears about how my family and friends died in Belgrade in 1999. They died in vein... along with many other innocents.

like i said, the war doesnt need to be taken past their doorsteps, and into their homes... because it was already there before 9-11.

You must understand Tiesto that war just brings along more death and destruction... which is exactly what we BOTH do not want, as we understand what it feels like.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King HAve you lived in the middeast during the Iran / IRaq war.... MILLIONS died then...

Are u sure it was MILLIONS?? meaning more than one million? DO u have any proof of this. Id be interested to see it.

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Tiesto14, your attitude is pathetic.

I never once denied the horrors of 9/11. Why are you offended because I feel that civilian deaths in Iraq are just as tragic?

2,800 people died in the WTC disasters. At least 100,000 (most estimates are two - times that size) will die in Iraq. That's the equivelent of 36 WTC disasters. Just because they aren't American citizens it doesn't mean they are some sub-human peoples that we can blow up just to make you feel better.

And for the record the soldiers pictured there were retreating from Kuwait. They were running away from the American military, yet were bombarded with missiles despite the fact that they posed absolutely no threat. It's goes against rules dictating proper conduct in warfare:

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When it was determined that the civilian economy and the military were sufficiently destroyed, the U.S. ground forces moved into Kuwait and Iraq attacking disoriented disorganized, fleeing Iraqi forces wherever they could be found, killing thousands more and destroying any equipment found. The slaughter continued after the cease fire. For example, on March 2, 1991, U.S. 24th Division Forces engaged in a four-hour assault against Iraqis just west of Basra. More than 750 vehicles were destroyed, thousands were killed without U.S. casualties. A U.S. commander said, "We really waxed them." It was called a "Turkey Shoot."

http://www.deoxy.org/wc/warcrim2.htm

(I suggest you all read that - Cheney and Bush Snr both found guilty of war crimes. Wonder if they plan to stand trial some day?)

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It seems like tiesto is one of those gullable people that Bush managed to convince Saddam was responsible for 11.9. disaster. Just in case you didn't know, Saddam and Al Quaeda used to hate each other, and radical islamists were terrorizing Iraq as well.

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Originally posted by Renegade Tiesto14, your attitude is pathetic. I never once denied the horrors of 9/11. Why are you offended because I feel that civilian deaths in Iraq are just as tragic? 2,800 people died in the WTC disasters. At least 100,000 (most estimates are two - times that size) will die in Iraq. That's the equivelent of 36 WTC disasters. Just because they aren't American citizens it doesn't mean they are some sub-human peoples that we can blow up just to make you feel better. And for the record the soldiers pictured there were retreating from Kuwait. They were running away from the American military, yet were bombarded with missiles despite the fact that they posed absolutely no threat. It's goes against rules dictating proper conduct in warfare: http://www.deoxy.org/wc/warcrim2.htm (I suggest you all read that - Cheney and Bush Snr both found guilty of war crimes. Wonder if they plan to stand trial some day?)

Dude u posted pics of soldiers dead..not civilians...and i DO NOT CARE about soliders of theirs dying...fuck them...its war...people die.....