> >President BUSH went for a check up:
> >
> >
> >His British doctor said:
> >"Mr. President, I am your doctor; I am sorry to inform you,
> >that you have a problem in your BRAIN.
> >Your brain has two parts, one Left and one Right.
> >The Left Part has nothing right in it, and
> >the Right Part has nothing left in it."
> >God Save America

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War sucks.

It's always the innocents who suffer.

However, now that it has started, it must be executed swiftly, to pave the way for humanitarian aid.

Saddam is a crook, it seems the only way to get him out is war.

There's not a chance that the U.S. will turn militarily against Iran in the near future. The country is in the midst of change, however slow. Don't be fooled into thinking that Iran represents any considerable beacon for Islam either. The people who run the country learned all of their oppressive tricks from the Shah, and have no accountability. Some of the hopeful revolutionaries have become disillusioned.

The US is encircling their next opponent in terms of superpower capability, the PROC. The strategy worked against the USSR, and they're gambling it will in the next fifty years.

Having said all that, I don't believe in killing for any abstraction such as a country or ideology (even the idea of democracy). I would only ever kill someone in self-defense, not to further the mechanistic, dehumanizing cause of warfare.

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Last edited by Wurm on Mar-20-2003 at 13:33

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Originally posted by Wurm Saddam is a crook, it seems the only way to get him out is war.

hey Kim Il Jong of North Korea is a crook too .. !! and i think more of his people are dying from famine than Iraqis being gassed by Saddam. And oh yea Richard Nixon was a crook too .. !

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They're so incredibly poor that several Koreans I know are fearful of reunion because of the drastic drag to the economy that rebuilding the North would bring.

The country is so paranoid about dissent that if you oppose the gov't, up to three generations can be put into prison camps.

I don't think tackling N. Korea coincides with the short-term goal of securing resources. If human rights was the only thing on the agenda, then Myanmar (among others) would be in need of 'regime change'.

It may be a bit of a 'sphere of influence' thing going on. Once more co-operation from surrounding nations can be *ahem* 'gained' (bought), things might fall into place in the future.

I can't stand talking about such complex issues in forums such as these.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer aaaaaaaagh I wish fuckin cowboy Bush would just listen to the people around the world.I was just driving by the U.S embassy tonite and I saw thesehuge walls infront the building,so no fuckin damage could be done and even at 1:30AM in the morning there was like 6 police cars infront the building. so if anyone wants to burn down the building good luck!! the sad part about all this is that it wont be the last war before Bush is gone,my country(Iran) is the next target in bush's list I swear to god I will go back and defend my country,even if it means that I have to BLOW MYSELF UP to save my country!!!I've had enough of the american Guverment,it is time for someone to fuckin get rid of them for good. The world doesnt need a fuckin cowboy like fuckin Bush.Iam praying that all the muslims in the middle east to unite and fight America. Die Bush Die I will try to be there tommorow at the demonstration,see ya there

This has got to be the DUMBEST comment I've read! Go back to Iran you fool and fight good luck to ya Tough guy! Everyones complaining about Bush's tactics. Meanwhile you people would be the first to cry for help if you needed his assistance. I think it's a discrace that people are not supporting Bush's decision on war. I don't like the idea war, but I do agree that a madman such as Saddam should be removed by all means possible. You guys should be thanking Bush for saving all of us from a deadly threat. As for the QUOTE above: You keep praying!!

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One thing I dont get about this whole conflict is the mentality that SOME muslims seem to have. ie. the its us against everyone else in the world (christians or jews). Last time I checked this wasnt a war against Muslim people. I dunno, it kinda seems like the ones that think that way are RETARDS and they think like that, not because everyone is out to get them, but rather because THEY THEMSELVES hate non-muslims. I dunno, thats kinda the way I see it. I dont mean to step on anyones toes, but yea...

anyways!

one thing I don't get is how topic of this thread is bias in it's opinion. No there have not been any actual proof that US presented I agree, but the fact that Sadam experements on his own people with biological weapons (FACT), how he tortures and kills his own people (FACT), all the defected scientists from Iraq that worked for Sadam claim that he has weapons of mass destruction (FACT), Sadam uses money from intrentaional aid to build more of his palaces instead of giving money and supplies to his people in need (FACT)!
Sadam claimed he never head any weapons in '93 the inspectors found many things suggesting that it's not true, but they were not allowed to view some of the bases where these weapons were stored. Later he said well yeah we did have weapons but we destroyed them. And the whole thing repeats it self over and over again. They say he has something he says he does not, and later it turns out that he is lying and he goes on to say, well we don't have any more of it left.

I am gonna open up your eyes, the only reason France is boycoting this whole thing is because they have construction (as in building new structures and buildings) contracts in Iraq, as well as the Oil contracts, and they are affraid that if the governmet regime changes they will loose all those contracts.
Russia on the other hand is boycoting this thing because Sadam owes Russia Billions of US dollars for the weapons that Russia supplied to Iraq in the last 20 years. And if Sadam is dead, there is no one to pay off that debt.

I agree every war sucks, and inocent people will always died, but that is the same in every war. It may seem like it is illegal that US is invading IRAQ with out much actuall evidence, to back them up. But where were all these protesters in '92 when Iraq was last invaded by US??????? No one did a god damn thing!!!

How can a guy like Fidel Castro or Stalin or Hitler be a good thing? Well how is Sadam than? All of them killed their own people! All of them had weapons! All of them lied about a lot of things! They were all control freaks!

I am not saying anyone is wrong or right here, US has done some horrible things, but I believe that Sadam has to be removed from the control of Iraq even though this is going to benefit the US more.

Just my opinion, don't agree with it oh well live with it!

if you want to argue with me over this be my guest, but please do so in the "PM" STYLE!

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Originally posted by Guvaholic This has got to be the DUMBEST comment I've read! Go back to Iran you fool and fight good luck to ya Tough guy! Everyones complaining about Bush's tactics. Meanwhile you people would be the first to cry for help if you needed his assistance.

what is this a dare??
you telling me you wouldnt defend your country if it was in danger??
you calling my comments dumb bcause I dont fuckin like Bush.If u really like that cowboy Bush why dont you go live there and support him.
and yes Iam tough enough and if u dont believe me lets meetup someday and we'll chat
and believe me bush is the last person on this earth that I would turn into.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Legal eh? How exactly is it that the US has PROOF, factual and hard proof that Iraq has chemical/other weapons? I agree with what has been said above, I do agree that Saddam has to be ousted but not in the way that it is being done.

There's lots of evidence from past UN inspections that he has those weapons...

Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

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Originally posted by Guvaholic This has got to be the DUMBEST comment I've read! Go back to Iran you fool and fight good luck to ya Tough guy! Everyones complaining about Bush's tactics. Meanwhile you people would be the first to cry for help if you needed his assistance. I think it's a discrace that people are not supporting Bush's decision on war. I don't like the idea war, but I do agree that a madman such as Saddam should be removed by all means possible. You guys should be thanking Bush for saving all of us from a deadly threat. As for the QUOTE above: You keep praying!!

its dumb of u to mention something like that to someone who knows his roots and cares for his fellow people AND FAMILY that lives there too

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee its dumb of u to mention something like that to someone who knows his roots and cares for his fellow people AND FAMILY that lives there too

thanks for understanding man!!
I swear man today when I went to school I had tears in my eyes,I couldnt keep my mind off whats going on,even though Iam from Iran,it still hurts me alot seeing all this happening to my neighbor!!
and hurts even more knowing that my country could be the next target.
well tonite is the new year for Iranians and other countries who celebrate newrouz!!
but it is really hard to celebrate at this moments.
but anyways hapopy new year to all my fellow Iranians,Iraqis,and others!!