I'll only talk about Sydney as that is the scene I know.

1st of all when you talk about Trance you have to differentiate.

The type of trance that is popular in Europe, and what most of us here like is Uplifting/melodic trance, Ferry/Armin style etc.

What normally passes for trance in the Sydney club scene is hard trance and it is quite popular. Sublime, Plastic, Progress@Gas, various nites at Icebox, the trance rooms at raves etc atest to this. Appart from RNB and "pop dance" it is 2nd only to House music in popularity.

However, there was never been an uplifting/melodic trance scene in Sydney really, the only time it was ever heard was when Internationals came to Sydney.

But when altitude came along it was the first time we had that. I dont agree that all that altitude wasnt a success, every one I went to was pretty much packed out. Likewise I dont think Armin was at all disappointing, it was barely advertised at all, only a week in advance, tickets at the door only and it was damn packed, they coudlnt have fit too many more people in there really.

I think one reason that there arent many club nights dedicated to trance is that they dont make as much money. Because people who listen to trance usually take drugs, where as people who listen to House, drink alcohol. The house nights make heaps more money for venues, which is why there is less incentive for them to play trance.

There are definitely heaps more people on tranceaddict, there is a more of a trance crowd that has built up around altitude and sites like TA and ITM.

Nervous recently announced that transmission will be more trance oriented, he is getting a lot of the Altitude DJs to play, as well as some more unknown trance dj's who will hopefully become household names. This is huge that we now have a big event which is centred on uplifting trance

IMO the uplifting/melodic trance scene in Sydney has come on in leaps and bounds and will continue to do so. No its not going to be like it is in Europe but at least now there seems to be a scene and hopefully if/when Altitude comes back regularly then we will have a regular uplifting trance night too.

Its all cycles.
Trance was big..then people grew up and wanted something deep - prog.
Now the NRG kids are growing up and want something a bit deeper - trance.

IMO.

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IMO the uplifting/melodic trance scene in Sydney has come on in leaps and bounds and will continue to do so. No its not going to be like it is in Europe but at least now there seems to be a scene and hopefully if/when Altitude comes back regularly then we will have a regular uplifting trance night too.

I hope so too. I believe that if the club night is to be a success then it needs alot of money thrown at it. Production, advertising, promotion, lighting and sound need to first rate. They need to really challenge Subbies, Plastic and Progress (esp. the first two). People have to want to go to the club all the time. For example, I think it would have been awesome if Altitude was held at Gas and that when you arrived there were people in flight uniforms welcoming you. You were then scanned and admitted, airport style. The doors open at 9pm but nothing starts till 10pm. Everyone gets a free drink on arrival. Then an MC welcomes you all to the club e.g. "Welcome everyone to Flight 001. I'm your captain for this evening and tonight your pilots will be etc. etc." Maybe even have a mini plane suspended from the roof! To me, that sought of effort/originallity is what is required. Just a thought.

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Originally posted by escee Trance, Sex, Drugs, Food, Holidays. What do all these have in common? After the first time, or the first few times, they arnt as good as it was at the start. Which why genres progress, you try different positions, you take new drugs, you eat strange food, and holiday at different places.

Unless your Brittish, They'll always be eating the same tasteless food No matter where they go. I was watching some show about all these poms that go to some place in Spain (not Ibiza) in Summer and all the shops around there sell english food cause none of them want to try and dont like the Spanish food. lol

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Originally posted by dj_orpheus I hope so too. I believe that if the club night is to be a success then it needs alot of money thrown at it. Production, advertising, promotion, lighting and sound need to first rate. They need to really challenge Subbies, Plastic and Progress (esp. the first two). People have to want to go to the club all the time. For example, I think it would have been awesome if Altitude was held at Gas and that when you arrived there were people in flight uniforms welcoming you. You were then scanned and admitted, airport style. The doors open at 9pm but nothing starts till 10pm. Everyone gets a free drink on arrival. Then an MC welcomes you all to the club e.g. "Welcome everyone to Flight 001. I'm your captain for this evening and tonight your pilots will be etc. etc." Maybe even have a mini plane suspended from the roof! To me, that sought of effort/originallity is what is required. Just a thought.

Hehehe nice ideas, it would work well. However they can't use the "Altitude" name anymore. What's happened (or happening) with this situation?

There's was an event called "Liberty" last Friday, it had a trance room and a house & breaks room... is this the new Altitude?

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Originally posted by dj_orpheus I posted on inthemix earlier and there are alot of people on those forums who have nothing better to do but bag out other people.

Hehehe it's been like that on there for years.
The occasional wit can be entertaining though.

I feel more at home here on Tranceaddicts Anonymous.
We don't treat our addiction, we feed it.

The Gatecrasher mix CDs may seem to have lost it's appeal after the first few volumes, and I believed that until I bought Resident Transmission (fluoro pink cover). There are far too many good tracks on there to say that it's crappy... a few great tracks that come to mind are Sun decade - I'm alone (Ronski speed remix), Fire & ice - San antonio, Push vs globe - Tranceformation, Euphonic - Sahara, Organ donors - Dark suite piano (Frank trax vs ashtrax remix), Nitromethane - Time to die (Seraque remix).

I think the Gatecrasher series is good for the exposure of quality trance to the masses. Similarly with other series like Godskitchen, and some Ministry of sound releases (e.g. Trance nation).

I agree that not everyone who attends trance events has a significant understanding of the music. However, do you think the proportion of people in Europe who really appreciate the music at their huge events is greater than the proportion at events here in Australia? Do you think most of the people who attend the Love Parade go for the music, or do most just attend to get totally drunk/high and party all day & night?

I couldn't be bothered reading all your rants, but dj_orpheus did you post this exact same thing on ITM??

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Personally I think things are changing in general as all things do over time. Melbourne already has a new trance nite (5AM) uplifting melodic trance not hard trance, vinylwarning.com.au is almost selling more trance than hard trance (which is unbelieveable in my opinon) and there are more and more trance djs and people appreciating the music. Trance is back in a big way internationally and it is only time until the vibe spreads to Melborune like with all other genres in the past (hard house then progressive house and now trance). The music is evolving and is better than ever in my opinon and so will clubs in time.

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Originally posted by Hyperdimension Hehehe nice ideas, it would work well. However they can't use the "Altitude" name anymore. What's happened (or happening) with this situation? There's was an event called "Liberty" last Friday, it had a trance room and a house & breaks room... is this the new Altitude?

It's not the new Altitude. The Altitude crew will have a few announcments in coming weeks I've been lead to believe.

Liberty's slogan is "the freedom to choose". You can choose the style of music and stuff from their website 4 the next event.....

I posted on the ITM thread, I've GOT TO STOP DOING THAT! This place is becoming more my home, but this site is soo slow

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I couldn't be bothered reading all your rants, but dj_orpheus did you post this exact same thing on ITM??

Yeah. It got a much more in-depth response here though (as expected)

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