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Registered: Oct 2001
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Venus (Tiesto mix) sucks , but the Outstanding mix is exactly what its remix suggests ! OUTSTANDING


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Registered: Sep 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by S_madis
Venus (Tiesto mix) sucks , but the Outstanding mix is exactly what its remix suggests ! OUTSTANDING



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Old Post Mar-26-2003 12:01  Finland
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Az
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics

Miro, fuck off!

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Prototrance
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Re: Losers- tracks

quote:
Originally posted by Micheline
there is two songs that are coming from people i think are good producers. This two songs are Love on the run from Chicane and Venus from Cor Fijneman. I heard a lot of hype about them and i recently listen them. I can say with open heart this are the some of the worst tracks this year.
Cor Fijneman saw what Paul Oakenfold did with Southern sun and he decides to produce kind of the same song. I mean you can clearly hear the vocals pretty much the same. And asking Tiesto to remix it just shows how he wanted to be something like Paul Oakenfold- Southern sun(Tiesto mix). Thats offcourse its not something big. Many people do this kind of stuff, but funny how Venus turned out worst than i can expect. Its just not anything special.
Chicane is returning and why? To release something called Love on the run. I asked myself "what the fuck?". I actually think it can grow on you, but here comes the shock. Blank&Jones remix just killed all my hopes for anything better.
Rank 1- Airwave(Breathing) just heard that one. And i will add it to the "bad" tracks this year. What the hell is that? I say go make some new music and leave the classics behind. Stop and i really mean stop releasing ur only hit again and again with or without vocals.

I am Micheline and this has been reality check on some of the tracks nobody dare to attack, but should!!



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Location: CA
Re: Re: Losers- tracks

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Originally posted by Prototrance
I am prototrance and STFU N00B!


chill, its only their opinion. they dont like some songs, eh whatever. no need to say fuck off, your name may be protrance, but you act like cheesetrance right there

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noikeee
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Registered: Apr 2002
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i haven't heard chicane's tune neither cor fijneman's version of venus, but to say tiesto remix of venus is the worst track of the year is just plain DUMB.


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starglider
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada

Cor Fijneman's work doesn't deserve to be disparaged like that. Sure, there are those who bash the Tiesto remix because it's the cool thing to do, but Cor has always been on the forefront of the Dutch trance wave. He's produced with Black Hole label mates like Tiesto and Geert Huinink for years now (co-produced many Allure tracks, for example) and doesn't always get the credit he deserves. He's recently hitting his stride in terms of big solo productions (Venus, Exhibition) and it's nothing if not pure Dutch trance. Add vocals from Jan Johnston that are unobtrusive at worst and you have a release that should please even the most discerning trance fan.

As for Love On The Run, I like it but I'm not surprised at the flak it's recieved. For one, Nick Bracegirdle's absence from the scene was so long that any comeback short of an absolute miracle would have left people saying, "but... but... Saltwater was better." We're easily blinded by nostalgia and it's hard to judge new works by their intrinsic value as opposed to their nostalgic appeal. In these cases the old tracks almost always win. Furthermore, it's a style slightly different from his old productions. A bit housier, a bit groovier. All the better, I say. Many producers get ripped into for repeating the same sound and one could hardly fault Nick in that respect.

And Breathing? No argument from me here. I generally despise it when old, instrumental tracks are revived with vocals in an apparent cash-grab attempt. That's not to say it can never work (see Perception) but the vast majority are simply horrible and make a mockery of the original work. Breathing is sadly no different.

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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: England

Intrinsic value eh? *Adds to vocabulary*

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Fundamental
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Scotland

quote:
Originally posted by MaRt
Intrinsic value eh? *Adds to vocabulary*


Vocabulary eh? *Adds to book of words*

...sorry couldn't resist!

Breathing was a blatent cash-in. Really annoying.


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Floorfiller
Girl + Sweater = Hotness



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's

quote:
Originally posted by Micheline
i only know about one album.


hmmm... i seem to remember these...

Far From The Maddening Crowds
Behind The Sun

ass...

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Location: Illegal Pete's
Re: Re: Losers- tracks

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Originally posted by Prototrance
I am prototrance and STFU N00B!


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Micheline
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Chicago

why do u have to be so hard on me people. just agree and thats all.

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