Originally posted by ahlamalek
hehe how do you know? you understand Arabic?
Arabic socities and western socities aren't alike. Showing someone dead on Arabic tv is very normal and happens quite frequently. In here, it is something that is unnaceptable. Both cultures have different values about this matter.
When I was young, I remember seeing dead soldiers from the Iran-Iraq war on Syrian/Iraqi TV. It was news like any other news.
He does have a good point. Americans are in a reality very diferent than many other countries. In fact ALL other countrys. People are suffering world wide and deal with local death every day. Perhaps it allot more to do with how the GOV wants the people to percive what is going on. I could be nuts but weve seen allot of control and questionable actions from the govs in the past when dealing with reporters who try to actualy report whats IS happening in times of war.
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Mar-28-2003 13:47
GODLESSCOMMIE
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quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
hehe how do you know? you understand Arabic?
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Mar-28-2003 16:17
dEsidEL
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i know it's just a conspiracy theory.. but the US military could have actually ordered the hack and shut down of A.J.'s site for propaganda reasons .. but i guess we'll never know forsure ..
does this mean someone is gonna hack CNN.com .. ?
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Mar-28-2003 16:31
GODLESSCOMMIE
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Originally posted by Mental Exodus
He does have a good point. Americans are in a reality very diferent than many other countries. In fact ALL other countrys. People are suffering world wide and deal with local death every day. Perhaps it allot more to do with how the GOV wants the people to percive what is going on. I could be nuts but weve seen allot of control and questionable actions from the govs in the past when dealing with reporters who try to actualy report whats IS happening in times of war.
eh? Maybe I should try jumping off the top of a skyscrapper since I'm apparently in another reality with out death(note to non Americans do not attempt this in your own country/reality as loss of life/ severe injuries my be incurred in doing so). I'm confused as some of the time you forum goers love to point out the number of gun deaths/poverty/etc in America then one of you claims we live with a Disneyland mindset that knows no suffering... I would be surprised if your goverenments aren't trying to show you all the negatives/propganda and being as cynical as possible to support their own positions/interests.
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Mar-28-2003 16:58
occrider
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Location: New York
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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
So why is the NYSE and Nasdaq punishing these journalists? It is because Al Jazeera aired clips of fallen American and British soldiers. Your right occrider, the American people don't need to see those clips and instead they may choose to remain in that dellusional state of mind filled with illusions and deceptions that they consider reality. I will not speculate on what Al Jazeera's intention for showing these clips was--instead I view the segments as reminders of the grit, pain and horror that is war (which they unquestionably are).
I'm an advocate of all free speech and though, as ugly as it may be.
So I'm being dellusional just because I'd rather not see pictures that add further humiliation to the dead?? Nobody is so stupid as to think that when the pentagon says we have 49 combat casualties that these people were dying in their sleep. It's fairly easy to come to the conclusion that they either died by a) bullet or b) shrapnel and that it's not going to be a pretty sight. Why do I need to see pictures of that to realize war is horrible??? I already realize that it is!! Of course war is horrible I don't think that there's anybody out there that will say it's not. What so is it ok for all of us to be voyeurs now???
Broadcasting images of dead americans and showing the bullet holes in their heads is despicable and tasteless. It serves no journalistic purpose at all!
occcrider Aljazeera hosted its website on another domain 2days ago
Last night it's down as well.
now they have an domain IP spreading secretaly online just so noone will attack it.
Mar-28-2003 20:01
JM
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Location: Seattle, USA
OMG ignorance. where's the proof that the US government has anything to do with this so called "hacking"....
yeah my comp got hacked into the other day. i know it did. so am i going to say that the government of an Arab country was behind it? after all, i AM a supporter of the war/troops.
>JM<
Mar-28-2003 20:13
fastmp3
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Montreal/Canada & Casablanca/Morocco (the ROOTS of TRANCE)
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Originally posted by JM
OMG ignorance. where's the proof that the US government has anything to do with this so called "hacking"....
yeah my comp got hacked into the other day. i know it did. so am i going to say that the government of an Arab country was behind it? after all, i AM a supporter of the war/troops.
>JM<
yes it was a tunisian hacker because he didn't like your posts here
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Mar-28-2003 20:17
JM
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Location: Seattle, USA
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Originally posted by fastmp3
yes it was a tunisian hacker because he didn't like your posts here
it was you i know it stop putting blame on others (i'm telling you man there's nothing good on my comp except the 100 gigs or so of music...plz dont delete those)
>JM<
Mar-28-2003 20:26
DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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the fact is what they're doing on that website under the geneva convention concerning Prisonner"s Of War is illegal ....
The US media has shown Iraqi POW's prior to the Al Jazeera footage.
Occrider:
Media should be allowed to put up any kind of material it wants, and it's not up to the government to decide if that material is appropriate for the people or not. The people should decide whether that material is crap or not. Otherwise you have state controlled media in a country that's so loud about keeping their media free and unopressed. It's not better than the official Iraqi tv then, in fact it's worse because Iraq is at least honest and doesn't claim it has free media. Nobody is forcing you to watch killed american soldiers, and you can switch the channel if you want to. Besides, in the rest of the world (here at least), media are frequently showing pictures of dead bodies, and it's nothing anybody gets fussed up about.
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Mar-28-2003 20:29
fastmp3
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Originally posted by JM
it was you i know it stop putting blame on others (i'm telling you man there's nothing good on my comp except the 100 gigs or so of music...plz dont delete those)
>JM<
ROFLMAO my days of netbus and nuke on windows 95 are over
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Mar-28-2003 20:39
DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: ATX
quote:
Originally posted by Mental Exodus
He does have a good point. Americans are in a reality very diferent than many other countries. In fact ALL other countrys. People are suffering world wide and deal with local death every day. Perhaps it allot more to do with how the GOV wants the people to percive what is going on. I could be nuts but weve seen allot of control and questionable actions from the govs in the past when dealing with reporters who try to actualy report whats IS happening in times of war.