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nchs09
Traceaddict in training



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum

id ban all the idiots on TA....






















yes i would ban myself last


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JenniferRene
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2005
Location: here & there

quote:
Originally posted by basd
I recall your beloved Gabriel & Dresden doing the exact same thing.


i don't recall ever saying i loved every remix they ever put out

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Kapedano
Forza Inter!



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Virginia Beach

quote:
Originally posted by basd
I recall your beloved Gabriel & Dresden doing the exact same thing.


Most of G&D work is quality, they hardly ever disapoint me.


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Desty Nova
psytrance addict



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Ketheres

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
Steer it back to the underground.


+

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
steer it further into mainstream


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Sykonee
Supreme EMCritic



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada

I'd destroy all JP8000s and their blueprints.


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Xelebes
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Re: Re: If You had the fate of trance in your hand...

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I'd turn it into a far less serious genre... to the point it would be fun (as in "you'd occasionally laugh during a set" or have the good old "what the heck" thought when listening to a song).


Like old school hiphop. Yeah, that would make trance better.

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Djshortcircuit
With or without words...



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Pittsford, New York

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
Most of G&D work is quality, they hardly ever disapoint me.



Same here...

Well then you can just keep listening to what ever style u listen to... didnt mean to piss people of by saying remixes were cool...


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Cobalt
Trance Isn't Trance



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

I'd put a five-year moratorium on melodies longer than eight beats.

I'd have PvD turn tech-trance, both production and mixing.

I'd smack Dave Seaman upside the head for giving trance the cold shoulder, and force him to make amends.

I'd make the pentatonic scale the hot new thing. Chinese vocals would rock too.

I'd have Holland leave the genre the fuck alone.

So many others to mention...

Last edited by Cobalt on Aug-03-2005 at 23:25

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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

I'd set fire to anyone who even thought "let's make a vocal trance record".

I'd force anyone who wanted to make trance to buy a real studio of hardware (not a laptop) to make sure they really had something worthwhile to contribute.

Anyone who said "trance is sooo unpopular in my country" would have their right to listen to it taken away from them.


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Kapedano
Forza Inter!



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Virginia Beach

If the fate of trance was in my hands...

- I would stop Tiesto from doing TIC series.
- I would go back in time 3-4 years ago and witness all the great classics that were played during clubs in the period of time.
- I would make PvD and Tiesto friends and make them produce a few tracks together.
- I wouldnt let Tiesto receive the nr.1 DJ in the world three times in a row.
- I would make Ferry produce more tracks under the Gouryella alias.


Thats all i can think of now.


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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
If the fate of trance was in my hands...


Right about now it's probably a good job that that isn't the case.


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> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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*InVeRs3*
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: E-Thuggin TA.com members

I'd beat up all you elitist pricks and one clown.


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noikeee
dubstep convert



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: lost and wandering looking for directions.

i'd brainwash ferry corsten into leaving epic and remotely-electro-sounding crap and starting a whole new retro ambient/classic trance revival. but better. with deep and techy bits, and a more creative and innovative goal overall (it's so good to talk this shit out of my arse, like people don't ever try to be creative and innovative at all).

then we'd be able to say "epic trance is dead, ferry corsten killed it"














ok, terrible attempt at joke, but it would be sweeeeeeeeet


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WojiePoj
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Talking Im in that boat...gunna half to agree

quote:
Originally posted by JenniferRene
You really wanna hear your so called “pop” hits remixed?

Oh ya I look forward to dancing my ass off on the dance floor to Paul Van Dyke’s new remix of Gwen Stefani’s “Bananas” that transitions into that f’n “Beverly Hills” song….

No Thank You Mr. DJ

(and I’m not ripping on you mmmk just staying my opinion )
my new sig is must change soon....jen rene is a stallion! wanna meet her soo bad...

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Aquarian
king of no pants



Registered: May 2005
Location: Laval, Quebec

quote:
Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
I'd beat up all you elitist pricks and one clown.


Just one? Surely more than one clown deserves a beating.

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WojiePoj
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quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
If the fate of trance was in my hands...

- I would stop Tiesto from doing TIC series.
- I would go back in time 3-4 years ago and witness all the great classics that were played during clubs in the period of time.
- I would make PvD and Tiesto friends and make them produce a few tracks together.
- I wouldnt let Tiesto receive the nr.1 DJ in the world three times in a row.
- I would make Ferry produce more tracks under the Gouryella alias.


Thats all i can think of now.
wow its ironic how much he hates tiesto ....yet is obsessed with Gouryella ROTFL

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JenniferRene
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Registered: May 2005
Location: here & there
Re: Im in that boat...gunna half to agree

quote:
Originally posted by WojiePoj
my new sig is must change soon....jen rene is a stallion! wanna meet her soo bad...


haha...hey you

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WojiePoj
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Big Ears Re: Re: Im in that boat...gunna half to agree

quote:
Originally posted by JenniferRene
haha...hey you
hey yaaaaa...

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Axolotyl
hired goon



Registered: Feb 2005
Location: atoms are not things they are possibilities

Change the name of what people consider trance these days to something else entirely. Eurotech, or Megalift or something catchy but in no way associated with trance. That way all the jaded Trancers can get on with their underground while the Eutotekkers define some sort of fluffy niche for themselves in the mainstream.

Oh, and I'd make Armin, Tiesto, Ferry and PvD strip off naked infront of each other just to see who has the bigger penis before making them fight to the death to decide... WHO... IS.... KING!!!


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Kapedano
Forza Inter!



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Virginia Beach

quote:
Originally posted by WojiePoj
wow its ironic how much he hates tiesto ....yet is obsessed with Gouryella ROTFL


Whats ironic about that? Im not obsessed with Gouryella, and I dont hate Tiesto. So your wrong!


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Abhay
banned user



Registered: May 2004
Location: mould coast

make sure there always atleast 1 trance track in teh top 20s. this track should always be from really good, and well-experienced underground artists.

Then, make sure that the line between underground and commercial is strong, and make sure that the popular track in that CD, is with other more commercially sounding tracks (but not completely commercial) tracks by that artists.

hence, a person buying that album, gets drawn into the better side of trance...

that artist should continue to make like 1 album out of every 3-5 a commercially one.


Hmm... seems like Tiesto might be doing htat...


who knows....

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Abhay
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Registered: May 2004
Location: mould coast

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
If the fate of trance was in my hands...

- I would stop Tiesto from doing TIC series.
- I would go back in time 3-4 years ago and witness all the great classics that were played during clubs in the period of time.
- I would make PvD and Tiesto friends and make them produce a few tracks together.
- I wouldnt let Tiesto receive the nr.1 DJ in the world three times in a row.
- I would make Ferry produce more tracks under the Gouryella alias.


Thats all i can think of now.



YAYyyyy... PVD and tiesto..


YAyyyyyyy...... Gouryella, but I'd want Tiesto to do it as well.....


YAYYyyy... ferry and Tiesto.....

YAYYyy... Gouryella.....


Tiesto's seems like he's slowing and retiring, y doesn't he just do Gouryella again?

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Spirit5
Nobody



Registered: Jun 2005
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I would have producers use more original ideas, instead of recycling the same sounds over and over as some modern producers do (and I will admit to liking some of them still). I just think that trance does need some mainstream attention, especially from those who listen to a lot of hip hop, pop and rock music. One idea would be to implement more live instruments and have a more organic feel to it, as in more bands like Faithless (they were pretty successful with their live acts, even though they aren't all trance). More trance artists releasing full length albums would help, not just big name DJs like Tiesto, Armin or Ferry Corsten. More CD singles released for the masses, more radio play, more reconginition in the US...and some more vocal orientated stuff (not the chessy shit that is played on Top 40 radio). More people i've met prefer vocal music to instrumental, even though I personally prefer instrumental (but like vocal as well....).

Last edited by Spirit5 on Aug-04-2005 at 04:43

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Abhay
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Registered: May 2004
Location: mould coast

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
I would have producers use more original ideas, instead of recycling the same sounds over and over as some modern producers do (and I will admit to liking some of them still). I just think that trance does need some mainstream attention, especially from those who listen to a lot of hip hop. One idea would be to implement more live instruments and have a more organic feel to it, as in more bands like Faithless (they were pretty successful with their live acts, even though they aren't all trance). More trance artists releasing full length albums would help, not just big name DJs like Tiesto, Armin or Ferry Corsten. More CD singles released for the masses, more radio play, more reconginition in the US...and some more vocal orientated stuff (not the chessy shit that is played on Top 40 radio). More people i've met prefer vocal music to instrumental, even though I personally prefer instrumental (but like vocal as well....).


I TOTALLTY 100% AGREE WITH YOU... particularily the live instruments...


that chicnae set on TA sounds so good, purely because of teh live insstruments.


I'm gonna thread a start about real instruments in trance.

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Spirit5
Nobody



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quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
I TOTALLTY 100% AGREE WITH YOU... particularily the live instruments...


that chicnae set on TA sounds so good, purely because of teh live insstruments.


I'm gonna thread a start about real instruments in trance.



Yeah I love Trance with live instruments, esepcially guitars. I love Mark Otten's stuff, and some other trance artists that use guitars. I really enjoy Chicane's stuff too, I have no idea what happened to Chicane though....it's been 5 years since his last album and only two new singles (Love On The Run...that I think sucked) and Daylight, whom i've only heard the ATB Remix of...and it was a little bit better than Love On The Run but was a remix so I dunno how the original sounds. I have no idea when or if his new album is gonna be released.....

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OurManFlint
P(x) =



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle

I like the idea of making it so that the production's focus was towards the set and not just a single, kinda like techno. Dutch trance would be outlawed, especially if it has a breakdown of any kind. Dutch producers should loose any privilidges of breakdowns. Progressive trance would be more progressive, and by progressive, I mean that the track actually progresses, just like back in the day. Nothing produced would have any resemblance to the shit being produced today, how can people listen to trance today? So uninspiring.

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basd
progression



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Somewhere nowhere

I like the idea of Dutch producers quitting At least the epic and mcprog ones, nothing even half decent has come out of their Reason copies anyway.

As much as I have abandoned listening to trance in the past few years, steering it more towards the sound of early Hook and Platipus releases would definitely get me interested again.


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RebeL9
The Digital Blonde addict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

I would implement the original ideas of trance. to make it hallucinating tracks whith basic tribal elements. such as the old Dance 2 Trance tunes.
If you listen to trance today one would wonder how a pop tune can be called trance. A trance tune is supposed to put you in a higher state of concioussness and awaken your spirituality and open your mind.

I would also prevent the closing of Eye Q Records.

I cant understand why people want trance to be more commercial. It was never intended to be commercial. The music will not become better because its more commercial. Just because more people listen to it doesnt make it automaticly better.
I recall DJ Taucher saying in an interview a couple of years ago that he never wanted to make a radio edit because that would kill the idea of trance music. A 10 min long journey CANNOT be recovered in a 3 min edit.

yeah and I would also wish that Sasha never started his sleepy prog/electro shit and stayed progressive trance.


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DJ Cinos
official ta furhead



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside the reactor

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
I would implement the original ideas of trance. to make it hallucinating tracks whith basic tribal elements. such as the old Dance 2 Trance tunes.


Tribal elements? In dance 2 trance tracks?


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RebeL9
The Digital Blonde addict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
Tribal elements? In dance 2 trance tracks?


yeah listen to their albums and you will find a red line through all tracks which have resemblance with indian traditions.
trakcs such as Power of American Natives (Dance 2 Trance remix)


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*InVeRs3*
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: E-Thuggin TA.com members

Why don't you want people to listen to stuff you like? Why is it bad for good trance to go mainstreme?


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DJ Cinos
official ta furhead



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside the reactor

quote:
Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
Why don't you want people to listen to stuff you like? Why is it bad for good trance to go mainstreme?


More music just made for the money.


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_Ocean_Drive_
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Iwate

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
More music just made for the money.


Do you go to school/work everyday for the "love of it"?


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*InVeRs3*
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: E-Thuggin TA.com members

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
More music just made for the money.


While that's true, going mainstreme means there will be more producers because of more fans so even though there will be a lot of so so tracks, there will be quite a few good tracks too. Eventually new ideas will come to trance like it did to almost all music.


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DJ Cinos
official ta furhead



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside the reactor

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Do you go to school/work everyday for the "love of it"?


No, but doing that work enables me to not have to make obnoxious commercial music to survive.

(NP: Dance 2 Trance - Purple Onions )


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RebeL9
The Digital Blonde addict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
While that's true, going mainstreme means there will be more producers because of more fans so even though there will be a lot of so so tracks, there will be quite a few good tracks too. Eventually new ideas will come to trance like it did to almost all music.


I dont agree. If you look back when trance was underground there were lots of quality productions though there were not as many producers as today.


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Sykonee
Supreme EMCritic



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Well, Jam el Mar did always have an ear for commercial music. I've a compilation that has P.ower Of A.merican N.atives alongside stuff like Urban Cookie Collective, Bad Boys Blue, 2 Unlimited, Q-Tex... really, a lot of euro dance.

Trance was mainstream to a degree right from the get-go. It just never caught on as such until the late 90's when euro 'techno' was a busted buzzword.


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Ian
Not dead yet.



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
I dont agree. If you look back when trance was underground there were lots of quality productions though there were not as many producers as today.


exactly.

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Zombie0915




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I'd give it all away for free, and encourage people to share what they like.

I'd encourage partygoers to dress more festively when they go out instead of "sophisticated and chic"

I wouldn't let little kids rolling their faces off through the door(!)
Actually, all people who are obnoxiously fucked up should be removed, they gave the world the wrong impression of the music and really really hurt it, people who can get fucked up responsibly can stay.

I would put all DJ's behind a curtain, or find some other way to make the crowd not face the DJ and stare at him the entire party, and instead focus on dancing and on the dancefloor.

I would put the artists who give their music away, use creative commons licenses, have day jobs(read: not in it for the money) at the top of that silly top100 list.

Actually, I would get rid of that top100 list! And all the stupid dj gossip and vain hypefest media, and replace it with a true alternative media that does not cover the scene in such a shallow fashion.

I would remove all our stupid buzzwords (such as "progressive", "underground", "classic", "omfgIdie", "anthem", half of that huge retarded list of genre classification, etc) from the vocabulary.

I would encourage people to sound different, make uniqueness the feature that is valued above the others.

I would throw out all the kids who want to horde trance into their own little group of friends, all those kids who wish the doors to the party would shut after they got there, everyone who is shelfishly trying to keep it all in their own silly little subculture. All the kind of people who want to inhibit trance from spreading to the people who want to hear it would have to be removed somehow.

I would ensure that no trance music related paraphanelia ever be made into stickers that kids put on their cars, t-shirts, soundbites in the background of tv shows, samples for radio station blurbs, commercials, TV show theme songs, fads for high school children, cell phone rings(!), obnoxious web page background music, patches that kids sew onto their clothes, hats(especially the trucker hats), and any other random silly trends. Instead trance music would be available only as an object in the form of music that one listens to for the fun of it, NOT background material for marketing!

I would give ameteurs and enthusiasts the same oppurtunity for making and spreading music as the big league pros who have access to high end equipment and record companies.

I have much more, but its kind of depressing to write out all this stuff because I know I don't have the ability to acheive any of it.

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I would put all DJ's behind a curtain, or find some other way to make the crowd not face the DJ and stare at him the entire party, and instead focus on dancing and on the dancefloor.


preventing the dj from seeing the crowd?

why dont you just go ahead and play a prerecorded mix?


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