So the nightmares about the big shadow swallowing me up weren't just to freak me out were they?

I agree, with you man, there are the few rare books, but wouldn't it be easier to just have a very good female friend and have her give you the female's perspective? That's what's helpd me learn quite a bit Now the rest is still up the "hands-on" experience (no pun intended you! )

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Originally posted by brunette haha wow, I'm really liking that..

Likewise, hehe.

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb because 99% of men out there don't even understand the opposite sex.

lol more like 100%.. girls dont even understand why they do the things they do sometimes..

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Originally posted by Prod So the nightmares about the big shadow swallowing me up weren't just to freak me out were they? I agree, with you man, there are the few rare books, but wouldn't it be easier to just have a very good female friend and have her give you the female's perspective? That's what's helpd me learn quite a bit Now the rest is still up the "hands-on" experience (no pun intended you! )

Generally a bad idea. Like jdjd said, most of these women don't understand themselves. They give bad advice. Maybe some of them give good advice, but in general you're going to suffer for it. Women view dating from a woman's point of view and don't understand it at all from a man's point of view.

But hey, if it helped you, then all the best to you. Hands-on experience, of course, is always the best.

P.S. nice quote, Crazy Serb.

P.P.S. Just so ya know Silke, Liebing destroyed me and that's why I hardly danced (reflecting your "shut up and dance" post).

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Originally posted by AmbiguousBliss Likewise, hehe.

haha ya

i dont know if its true or really good advice.heh but cute

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Originally posted by ahlamalek its a SHE

BAH sorry ! :

my mistake ! :P

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Originally posted by Prod I agree, with you man, there are the few rare books, but wouldn't it be easier to just have a very good female friend and have her give you the female's perspective? That's what's helpd me learn quite a bit Now the rest is still up the "hands-on" experience (no pun intended you! )

If you can find a female that is actually willing to teach you a few things from a neutral point of view, that would be more than helpful... neutral point of view being that you're not hitting on her blindly and don't wanna get into her pants (cuz that will just cloud your reasoning) and that she is not there to use you (thus giving you advices like "Girls like being taken out to expensive restaurants, being pampered with expensive gifts, etc"). But your chances of running into one are close to none, since 99% of girls out there don't even know themselves what they want. OK, I don't wanna call them dumbasses or anything like that, but they think and say that they want one thing, when in reality all they want is something a bit different. I won't even go into stories of their own deception with their own ideas, etc.

Now, before you go out and try and get some "hands on" experience ( good one ), you know how everyone says "Just be yourself"... well, that's the trick, just be yourself, BUT first, and I cannot stress this enough, first get to know yourself. Know what you want, what you like, what you hate, where you're going in life, how you're gonna get there, have something going on for you. That might be more attractive than all the good looks God might have (or not) given you. Then be yourself... much easier than having no clue and confusing the hell out of yourself and the girls you run into.

I'll conclude this lesson with a poem...



...yeah, right!

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb If you can find a female that is actually willing to teach you a few things from a neutral point of view, that would be more than helpful... neutral point of view being that you're not hitting on her blindly and don't wanna get into her pants (cuz that will just cloud your reasoning) and that she is not there to use you (thus giving you advices like "Girls like being taken out to expensive restaurants, being pampered with expensive gifts, etc"). But your chances of running into one are close to none, since 99% of girls out there don't even know themselves what they want. OK, I don't wanna call them dumbasses or anything like that, but they think and say that they want one thing, when in reality all they want is something a bit different. I won't even go into stories of their own deception with their own ideas, etc. Now, before you go out and try and get some "hands on" experience ( good one ), you know how everyone says "Just be yourself"... well, that's the trick, just be yourself, BUT first, and I cannot stress this enough, first get to know yourself. Know what you want, what you like, what you hate, where you're going in life, how you're gonna get there, have something going on for you. That might be more attractive than all the good looks God might have (or not) given you. Then be yourself... much easier than having no clue and confusing the hell out of yourself and the girls you run into.

wel said man!!!
cheeeeers

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb If you can find a female that is actually willing to teach you a few things from a neutral point of view, that would be more than helpful... neutral point of view being that you're not hitting on her blindly and don't wanna get into her pants (cuz that will just cloud your reasoning) and that she is not there to use you (thus giving you advices like "Girls like being taken out to expensive restaurants, being pampered with expensive gifts, etc"). But your chances of running into one are close to none, since 99% of girls out there don't even know themselves what they want. OK, I don't wanna call them dumbasses or anything like that, but they think and say that they want one thing, when in reality all they want is something a bit different. I won't even go into stories of their own deception with their own ideas, etc. Now, before you go out and try and get some "hands on" experience ( good one ), you know how everyone says "Just be yourself"... well, that's the trick, just be yourself, BUT first, and I cannot stress this enough, first get to know yourself. Know what you want, what you like, what you hate, where you're going in life, how you're gonna get there, have something going on for you. That might be more attractive than all the good looks God might have (or not) given you. Then be yourself... much easier than having no clue and confusing the hell out of yourself and the girls you run into. I'll conclude this lesson with a poem... ...yeah, right!

I wholeheartedly agree, that's why I provided my example by saying what I did, simply because of a female friend of mine who has actually helped me learn about myself through our interaction and stuff :P It's hard to find a true neutral point of view like you said, but I was lucky to be like that myself, and that the girl was willing to talk on neutral ground on any topic, so hats off to a lucky find (then again this could be another example of fate *ducks behind a fence before rocks start to fly* ) hehe If both people are mature in the mind and can see that in each other then they can pretty much go through any topic without having bias towards the topic, especially when there is respect between the two :P

Just my $0.02

Nice avatar btw

I hate it when women approach you when your with your girlfriend.

Why dont they approach you when your single?

silly females.

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Originally posted by neoh I hate it when women approach you when your with your girlfriend. Why dont they approach you when your single? silly females.

haha that's sort of like the George Costanza's wedding band experiment, where wearing a wedding ring had more women asking him about it hahaha brilliant!