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Originally posted by ShadoWolf in the US, it's estimated that black people on average are 1/3 white it's called mixing

That is not what he is saying... he is saying that even within the group that you define as Black, or White or Asian that there can be to many differences in skin tone, eye structure, etc for it to be possible to apply a single label of a race to that group, that the changes are not do to your wonderful mixing theory, but because of biological reasons

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Originally posted by Tudo Beleza That is not what he is saying... he is saying that even within the group that you define as Black, or White or Asian that there can be to many differences in skin tone, eye structure, etc for it to be possible to apply a single label of a race to that group, that the changes are not do to your wonderful mixing theory, but because of biological reasons

mixing is biological

lol

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Originally posted by mndeg this is pointless, it's irrelevent if science proves that race does not exist people will always in their mind put people in categories of race, and don't tel lme that's not true when you meet someone, do you notice if they are a guy or a girl? same thing with race

so then your defining race not based on biological or scientific reasons, but on cultural and societal reasons.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf in the US, it's estimated that black people on average are 1/3 white it's called mixing

Thank you for ignoring my arguments - and for proving my point. Mixing is one of the main reasons that there is no coherent concept of race, because of the varying degrees of mixing that have (and continue to) occur. How do you define who's a member of one race and who isn't? If the concept of race is exclusive, then you can't really belong to two races at the same time. If this is the case, then how do you classify someone who is the product of a 'mixed' relationship?

I'm also interested in your claim that people of certain races are biologically speaking - practically different species. Firstly, do you know the meaning of the word species, and secondly, do you have any evidence to back up your claim?

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race has both cultural and biological elements


but to say race is just culture is bunk, pure and simple

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race, to people is a preconceived notion about something
that's all

and race does not have cultural elements, for example, african-americans are nothing like their exact same DNA 'cousins' in africa culture wise

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a person that is mixed is called hapa if they are white/asian, muletto (sp?) if they are african/white
there are lots of other words

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Originally posted by mndeg this is pointless, it's irrelevent if science proves that race does not exist

In what way is it irrelevant?

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people will always in their mind put people in categories of race, and don't tel lme that's not true when you meet someone, do you notice if they are a guy or a girl? same thing with race

Eh?

Can you be identifiably half female and half male? Not really - you could have an artificially constructed genitalia, but you'd still be incontinent. The entire point is that there's no coherent concept of race, you can't identify who's a member of that race and who isn't, whereas in the overwhelming majority of cases, you can identify who's male and who's female - because a coherent concept of sex exists.

It doesn't matter if people you meet identify you as a member of a certain race or not - it matters where the evidence points.

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Originally posted by kewlness I'm asian, born in Africa, raised in Canada! i'm unique!

Ishmaali?

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The entire point is that there's no coherent concept of race, you can't identify who's a member of that race and who isn't,

skin colour, hair, skull shape, nose shape, ass size... SOO many physical indicators

THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!!

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it's irrelevent in real life, is anyone going to use the "there is no such thing as race" remark unless they REALLY hated their own race?

the concept of race will never ever dissapear

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Can you be identifiably half female and half male?

HERMAPHRODITE

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