i do not support the bombing af afghanistan, though i do understand those who do. i dont think bombing them would solve much, accept making the situation worse. this needs some rationally thought out desicion....

on a after thought...this may have been pointed out.
it was pointed out by one NYC police/fire officer that the date is 9/11---911. coincidence?

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yah last time Osama tried this, he failed. I also saw on the news that this couldn't be him because it was too perfectly done or something. This attack was 100000 times worse then oklahoma bombing IMO. Oklahoma was one person and the deaths were in the hundreds in think.

taub, i know you feel strongly about this, everyone, just try and understand that we shouldnt point fingers at any one just yet, let us just think of how many familes in america are feeling right now. an arguement in here is not going to help anything, so lets just leave it at that.

latest ive heard is 200 firemen and 200 police have lost their lives

it doesnt take a well trained solider to use a knife. i dont think the hundreds of serial killers who commit crimes each year took a night school course. bin laden brought it on himself when someone profess such a profound hatred for a nation who else do you think did it? the amish?

People over the past years have been thinking of all Arabs as terrorists and this is going to make it even worse. Then when you see the people in that village on TV celebrating the attack, it somehow ignites a hatred for those kind of people in you for a minute. You then have to remind yourself thats prejudice and not all Arabs are terrorists, many of them are just like yourself.

People need someone to blame and many people are now blaming Arabs and some are even attacking people of Arab descent. This is wrong but people are very angry and this is how they are venting their anger.

IMO it was most likely Bin Laden and his groups but I'm still open to the fact that it very well could have been another group. I wouldn't blame anybody at the moment but I do have my suspicions as do most.

i gave blood already.....ABT why you just taking one sided view? go start a new thread about them rejoicing about the bombing? why would anyone want that? its stupid to bomb Afgan and who ever crashed the planes was stupid to do that too....its the wrong step
the US and it would loose any allies in the middle east if it takes responsibility for these bombings....imagine the only allies the US having the middle east being Israil and Kuwait?....there are going to be some major problems...oil? no more of that

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Originally posted by integrity1 it doesnt take a well trained solider to use a knife. i dont think the hundreds of serial killers who commit crimes each year took a night school course. bin laden brought it on himself when someone profess such a profound hatred for a nation who else do you think did it? the amish?

i totally think it was the amish...so they can show us how all our technology...planes and big sky scraper are evil. hehehehehe

DISCLAIMER...I'M JUST JOKING!!! I need to releive some tension after today.

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Originally posted by Taub why do you all think its bin laden???? it could have been a white sepratist group....like the smae people who blew up the Oklahoma city FBI buliding

only one person was responsible for ohb

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Originally posted by raverchikadee ya i saw that shit on the news .. the people in palestein were jumping up and down and celebrating our loss. Even the children were celebrating.. they have no idea what they are celebrating. They have no idea that thousands of people died today. Men woman and children. They dont know that america is 100000x's better than the civilization they live in. And if they live to get older they will see how ignorant they were to be celebrating such an attack and realize how it has and will effect the world for yrs to come.

This is the dark side of me but I would like to see somebody walk through that village and blow away all those people celebrating. Even though they may not exactly know what they're celebrating, anyone who would celebrate what happened today deserves to die IMO.

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Originally posted by ABTsportsline First off, the entire country of Afghanastan is not getting bombed My opinion of Afghanastan - if you are going to harbor a KNOWN terrorist that is responsible for 90% of ALL terrorist acts for the last 10 years, and you refuse to give him up, then you are in my opinion DESERVING of a bombing, and at the same time you are putting your entire population at risk..... If my country harbored a known terrorist in the city that i live in, i would leave - duh that i would get bombed. -ABT-

word up ABT... Afgan is simply asking for it. About the anti-arab thing...remmeebr back in the day when....that US "spy" plane crashed over china? well, nothing really happened to any chinese people during the time after the incident (even asian club went off without a hitch ), and i honestly doubt any thing will happen to the arab population at school. anyway, i strongly agree with taub and his buddy about the racial thing. never blame only the arab world for terrorists.

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The people who hijacked the planc had only KNIFES and BOXCUTTERS....who would have such traing to take over a Plane by just using KNIVES ane BOXCUTTERS>? possibly some trained by the U.S

and to taub....turst me dude, if i had a BRICK, i can take over an aircraft. its called "biatch, i have a weapon and you dont".

this post is really really vague, and if enough people flame me...i guess ill come back heh

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if afganistan is harbouring an international fugitive who may or may not have at least some information on these crimes and says hes not here when he has been spotted there recently then why shouldnt we use force? its obvious that these people will not reason peacefully and i hate to use this saying but desprate times call for deaprate measures

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Originally posted by Taub i gave blood already.....ABT why you just taking one sided view? go start a new thread about them rejoicing about the bombing? why would anyone want that? its stupid to bomb Afgan and who ever crashed the planes was stupid to do that too....its the wrong step the US and it would loose any allies in the middle east if it takes responsibility for these bombings....imagine the only allies the US having the middle east being Israil and Kuwait?....there are going to be some major problems...oil? no more of that

doesnt kuwait hold a lot of major oil supplies....the reason we got involved in the persian gulf war bc Sadam had taken kuwait over...eventhough it was professed to be a humanitarian effort...to save the oppressed kuwaities. And america hasnt claimed responsibility for the bombings in afghan...id be suprised if we did it actually...the us will not bomb someone if they arent sure who did it...if we just bombed before finding out all the facts we would loose respect from a lot of countries...the same countries which now are on our side due to the travesty brought upon our country

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