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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Scotland

^^^ yeh watching all the cars go into the pits was a big blow for everyone. I felt a bit sorry for Montiero as well - he started spraying his champagne and shumi & rubens just walked off.

Old Post Jun-19-2005 20:20  United Kingdom
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TOR
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Bruges, Belgium

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
Nice to see however the first podium finish ever of a portuguese driver. Didn't matter much considering the circumstances, but of course our press is now going to hype him as if it was something fantastic. Still, a very good race by him as he ended more than 30 seconds in front of Karthekyan.


yeah, i thought he drove brilliantly actually. he didn't give away much time compared to the Ferrari's during the first part of the race.


what bothers me the most is that Ferrari and their drivers are right up there in the championship, and it would be awful if they win one or both championships by just a couple of points.. just imagine that the decisive factor for the championship was this race.

of course Michelin made a grave error, and the way this whole thing unfolded was entirely right, but still.. it would seem as if Ferrari had won the championship without any competition whatsoever. so i really hope they don't win, or, if they win, they do it by more than 10 points.


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Old Post Jun-19-2005 20:22  Europe
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I almost spent $400us going to this race I glad i didn't. I don't agree with Michelin at all. Thier teams should have pitted on the first lap, blaming not racing on safety, oh please.


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Old Post Jun-19-2005 22:18  Canada
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Registered: May 2003
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great job selling F1 to the states

sometimes the most moronic things happen in F1, geeze

Old Post Jun-19-2005 23:11  United States
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Registered: May 2004
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Went to the race, it was crazy but glad i saw Ferrari win 1-2 hahahaha

Eddie Montoya once again didnt finish a race lol, and paranoik go Montiero although he got owned by Rubinho and Schumi at the podium

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Registered: May 2004
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It was the strangest and the most weird race in the whole F1 history. IMO it should be cancelled...


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I fucked up and forgot to record this race (it started at 330 am here), pissed off cos it woulda been amazing to see..........
Saw a bit of it on the news, crazy, but really it was the right decision if the teams thought there was a real safety issue.
The FIA and FOM would have been much wiser to let ALL teams change their tyres before the race (I'm assuming the replacement Michies got there in time), that would have allowed the Bridgestone teams have fresh tyres too, so effectively nothing lost nothing gained.
But oh well, a new history note in F1 racing......


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Ben i'm sure you screamed "REFUND" like a mad redneck

OMG you should have seen them complaining yesterday, they were saying "this kind of stuff never happens in NASCAR or INDY, i'm gonna stop watching F1"


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quote:
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Ben i'm sure you screamed "REFUND" like a mad redneck

OMG you should have seen them complaining yesterday, they were saying "this kind of stuff never happens in NASCAR or INDY, i'm gonna stop watching F1"


REFUND REFUND REFUND


na there were not than many rednecks there mostly south americans

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And The Plot Thickens


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PARIS -- Formula One's governing body on Monday summoned seven teams using Michelin tires to a hearing later this month after they pulled out of the United States Grand Prix for safety reasons.


The FIA hearing in Paris on June 29 could lead to a range of punishments including fines, docked points or even suspensions -- possibly throwing the F1 season into chaos with 10 races left.


Michelin provides seven of the 10 F1 teams with tires. Only six cars -- using Bridgestone tires -- started the race in Indianapolis on Sunday after 14 drivers left the track following the warmup lap. Ferrari's Michael Schumacher won, climbing from his car to a chorus of boos.


Teams from Renault, McLaren-Mercedes, Toyota and Williams-BMW -- none of which raced -- were told to attend the Paris hearing.


Two Michelin tires failed in Friday practice sessions -- one causing a wreck that prevented Ralf Schumacher from competing -- prompting Michelin to rule its tires were unsafe for the Indianapolis track.


But FIA said it had "clear rules" that everyone had to keep.


"These cannot be negotiated each time a competitor brings the wrong equipment to a race," FIA said in a statement.


Michelin had unsuccessfully asked FIA to ease its rule forbidding teams to change tires after qualifying. FIA also refused to consider installing a curve. Michelin then advised its teams not to compete.


"What about the American fans? What about Formula One fans worldwide? Rather than boycott the race the Michelin teams should have agreed to run at reduced speed in turn 13," FIA said, referring to the part of the Indianapolis circuit that Michelin said was too fast for their tires.


"By refusing to run ... they have damaged themselves and the sport."


Michelin defended its decision.


"We are absolutely not embarrassed about our decision, although we do have regrets for the fans of Formula One and for the racing drivers of course," Frederic Henry-Biabaud, Michelin's deputy director of competition, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday.


"We feel it is a reasonable decision and we were professional to bear in mind primarily the safety of the drivers," Henry-Biabaud said. "We had no other choice."


He called the United States a safety-minded country and said there would have been an uproar if there were a crash Sunday.


"Imagine what would have happened in the United States if there was an accident ... What would have been the reaction if we'd allowed the drivers to race and something bad happened?" he said.


Henry-Biabaud said Michelin's involvement in F1 would continue, and dismissed speculation only one tiremaker would be allowed to supply cars from now on.


"Competition at the highest level includes competition between tire makers. I don't see why it would change," he said.


Henry-Biabaud said the problems with the tires were largely due to the design of the Indianapolis track.


"At Indianapolis, the tire coating suffers," he added. "The circuit is very traditional but the straight line before the banking delivers massive pressure on the car and the tires. For the car to do the whole race we have to be sure the tires can last."


Henry-Biabaud said FIA should have built a temporary curve before the banked corner to reduce speeds and lessen pressure on the tires.


Michelin said it has no concerns for the French Grand Prix on July 3.


"The Magny-Cours circuit is well known to Michelin technicians who use it regularly for testing," the manufacturer said.


FIA said putting in a curve would have been unfair to those using Bridgestone tires.


"The Bridgestone teams had suitable tires. They did not need to slow down," FIA said. "The Michelin teams' lack of speed through turn 13 would have been a direct result of inferior equipment, as often happens in Formula One."


The FIA also pointed out that each team is allowed to bring two sets of tires, including a slower tire suitable in all circumstances.


"Apparently, none of the Michelin teams brought a backup to Indianapolis," it noted.

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DarkFall01
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Zürich

FUCK! I went all the way from Masshole, to see the race and next thing I know, 6 fucking cars are racing

Also, I had no clue what was going on, until I asked someone. Don't know if they said it in the race, but with my earplugs I was practically deaf

But seriously, worst experience at any sport event ever. Not worth the $150 tickets EACH + car rental + plane tickets!!!


It was weird seeing so many ppl leave in the beginning when they noticed what had happened. Even though I was dressed all in blue with my Asturian flag as a cape, I stayed until the end of the race, but I must say, I was very disappointed.
I will ask for a refund...

Old Post Jun-20-2005 19:57  Spain
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quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
na there were not than many rednecks there mostly south americans


Ya, lots of Columbians and Brazilians. They were fun to be around though, except, the Columbians when they noticed Montoya wasn't racing

Old Post Jun-20-2005 20:02  Spain
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