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| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
[QUOTE] scientific method and "rational thought" (or reason) are part of the same language. of course science might not be predict whether pkcRAISTLIN will prefer this trance track over another one.
irrelevant. |
formation of 'meanings of life' are not scientific. how is a metaphysical question about leading a good life, or how to be happy, a scientific question??
science USES rational thought to make it's empirical evidence make sense.
| quote: | well you're hamstringing yourself in this conversation then aren't you? "there's a god because i couldn't believe there's not?"
what kind of fvcked up shitty logic is that? *waves at mandi* thanks for those tits mandi  |
i meant that the concept of an external being could well be a kind of mental disposition: i didn't say it was proof of God's existence, i just said that it's an interesting phenomena.
| quote: | there are all kinds of things that have been part of our culture that we have shedded. you know, like slavery. or beheading. or having kings to run our countries.
that is simply not true at all and i wish people would stop saying it. |
that is simply not true at all: 1: those things all still exist, 2: the MEMORY of them alters our actions today. history is told so that we don't make the same mistakes that we've made in the past. we know about beheadings because they've been societally valued (as negative in this case), and we're told about them so that we never get to a place where they will happen again.
if you knew history, or had common sense, you would know that many of the laws that were carried thru history (murder being a crime etc) were created during times of state-religions. the church used to have massive impact over government, especially in European countries. you would also be able to recognise that many of the laws that exist now, or that at least used to exist are very similar to biblical laws, and it's not too much of a stretch to assume that this is no coincidence.
interestingly, religion still exists massively in media as well: there is MASSIVE referencing of the bible in modern media, in either comparitive, or parody forms, as well as direct or indirect references (re-telling of biblical tales, or a kind of mighty boosh suggesting jesus copied the fashion of one of his apostles)- i think that's something to also note- religion is very much alive. the ideas still exist.
not that it has anything to do with the point i was making, but it's still interesting.
| quote: | haha, we were only discussing this in both the COR and PDD recently  and yes, there is certainly some evidence to support that claim. but there is also an impulse to rape and pillage, doesn't mean we have to "go with the flow". |
i merely mentioned it as an interesting phenemena
doesn't mean that we should be religious, but it's something to think about...
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Last edited by EgosXII on May-29-2008 at 14:55
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