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Originally posted by Lews Under organic production, the use of conventional non-organic pesticides, insecticides and herbicides is greatly restricted and saved as a last resort

Restricted, but not eliminated Life for life, im betting theres more grasshoppers killed each year to preserve some plants then there are cows, pigs and horses killed to make delicious burgers
Also keep in mind that if the cow population was allowed to expand unrestricted it would be disastrous for the climate due to all the farting that they do. So we are not just eating meat because its good and we like it, were eating meat for no less of a reason than to save the planet! I mean is there a greater environmentalist cause than fighting global warming? Im actually upset with you for not doping your share in reducing the threats to the environment, forcing the rest of us to pick up your share of the work

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit We aren't brontosaurs' spending 99% of our waking hours grazing just to meet daily dietary requirements.

Even the brontosaurus wasn't a brontosaurus, to be fair.

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Originally posted by WittyHandle The tooth argument is a prime example of information that can be interpreted by either side to justify their decision.

Correct.

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Originally posted by Lilith If animals didn't want me to eat them, they would have evolved to taste bad.

I've got a question. Where is the injustice, in killing the animal, or in eating it (or both)? Why?

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Originally posted by Moongoose

You do realize how silly this is right? We breed them for our uses. If we didn't use them, we wouldn't breed them, and their environmental impact would be significantly less. I don't think the feral cow population is a significant factor.

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Originally posted by djhaziel errr. our diet has become softer therefore humans don't need as many teeth as before. Many thousands of years ago we even had a 4th molar and due to our change in terms of "consistency" in our diet, the 4th molar disappeared , same thing is happening with the 3rd molar ( wisdom tooth) which is now considered a rudimentary organ . Again our mind evolved because of the intake of essential fatty acids ( omega 3 and omega 6 ) that are all found in nuts , seeds , flowers etc . btw that national geographic bullshit did you just made it up ? you should post the source or else consequences will never be same .

( wisdom tooth) which is now considered arudimentary organ


Dude... that is so medically incorrect. Vestigial organs is a theory.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I had ribs last night, and I had pastrami for lunch. It tastes good and the only reason for those animals to exist now is for us to eat them.

Some animals are created to fertilize the earth to grow better crops if you choose to look at it that way.

I don't see why most people are seriously against eating meat or for eating meat, I feel a healthy balance between the two is what's proper.


edit: repost I'm sure. No time to wade through 20 pages

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http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/20...html?ref=dining

hot damn! just saw this - would love to try to do this sometime.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/20...html?ref=dining hot damn! just saw this - would love to try to do this sometime.

Have you seen the episode of Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations, where he goes to the Philippines? They have cooks who are specially trained to cook pigs over an open flame, turning it at appropriate intervals, to get the skin nice and crisp.


That looks good, too, but if you can catch that episode... That ones on my bucket list.

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I love that show...I haven't seen that episode though. I remember an episode in the Philippines but all I can really recall from it is that crazy 'balut' stuff. I really like Bourdain - from when I first read Kitchen Confidential. I just finished reading his new one, Medium Raw, actually.
Do you mean that traveling to the Philippines for that is on your bucket list or just roasting a whole pig? The latter seems pretty affordable- albeit a ton of work. I'm gonna try to convince my dad.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights I love that show...I haven't seen that episode though. I remember an episode in the Philippines but all I can really recall from it is that crazy 'balut' stuff. I really like Bourdain - from when I first read Kitchen Confidential. I just finished reading his new one, Medium Raw, actually. Do you mean that traveling to the Philippines for that is on your bucket list or just roasting a whole pig? The latter seems pretty affordable- albeit a ton of work. I'm gonna try to convince my dad.

I just want the pig roasted, in that particular way, along with all the other trimmings of that feast - it's towards the end of the show. The hide is this deep red and ultra crispy and they slice some of it off for Bourdain to sample, right before they serve it, and it's so crisp it sounds like a chip when he bites down on it. If I have to go to the Philippines to get it, it's worth the trip.

Another bucket list item is to be on the beach on the East Coast in Alabama for a Jubilee, when a bunch of seafood comes on shore by itself. It's a freak occurrence and doesn't happen on a schedule. Sometimes you get a whole variety and other times you might get nothing but squid. It's completely random.

I love Bourdain, too. I haven't read any of his books yet, but I probably should.

If you can get your dad to do that, make sure you get plenty of pics. I'd do it myself, if I could. The NYT preparation looks simple enough - but delicious.

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Wow I'm reading about the Jubilee on wikipedia:

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The length of coast that serves as the most popular jubilee grounds is densely populated. When a jubilee is spotted people living near the shore will often ring bells and call out to alert their neighbors so that everyone can rush down to the water with washtubs, gigs and nets, and gather a bountiful—and easily reaped—harvest of seafood. As jubilees only happen on warm summer nights, often in the early pre-dawn hours, the event takes on the aspect of a joyous community beach party, with lights shining into the Bay water.

I'll be home for the next semester and figure I may very well be able to convince my dad to facilitate a pig roasting. I think he'd really enjoy it- I could have a bunch of friends come over and all lend a hand, and under 200 dollars for that kind of experience seems well worth it (especially since my dad would likely not mind paying for it...). He has a really big back yard but it's on a slope so I don't know if that would pose some sort of problem. Maybe the biggest problem would be getting enough people together to eat the whole thing....I wonder what a reasonable number would be.