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colonelcrisp
Isn't Batshit Crazy



Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Ottawa

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo


can't hear any bombs in this one, and he was in the building.

can't believe i'm doing this.

jsut looking at how the buildings collapse it's pretty obvious the structural failure that took place.

the one with the most weight to bear relative to the initial impact naturally falls first.

then the second comes down in on itself plain as day from the top all the way down to the ground. not the other way around like in controlled demolitions.



do my eyes decieve me? is that rational thought in a CT thread!!! my god it is...... nice to see someone else with their head firmly attached to their shoulders.... cheers


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Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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LazFX
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
do my eyes decieve me? is that rational thought in a CT thread!!! my god it is...... nice to see someone else with their head firmly attached to their shoulders.... cheers


OMG!!! what if it becomes contagious???!!!??

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colonelcrisp
Isn't Batshit Crazy



Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Ottawa

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
OMG!!! what if it becomes contagious???!!!??



the aggregate IQ score of this forum might rival that of a justin timberlake concert?


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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
the aggregate IQ score of this forum might rival that of a justin timberlake concert?


more ad hominems that don't pertain to anything even remotely related to the topic at hand.

You can all read about it here:
http://changingminds.org/techniques...ame_calling.htm

quote:

Techniques > Propaganda > Name-calling


Method
Call them names

Laugh at what targeted others say. Criticize their lack of values. Denounce their ideals. Turn around their words and actions, taking them out of context and amplifying them to drown out any denial (making denial seem like admission of guilt). Use other double-binds such that whatever they say or do only mires them more deeply.

Find a name that trivializes them and use it at every opportunity, with a smirk on your face and the laughter of your supporters.
Show up opponents

Make your opponents appear stupid, immoral or otherwise undesirable. Besmirch their untarnished reputation, holding it down in the mud, rubbing it in with the knowledge that much of the mud will stick. Be careful about the person retaliating. As necessary, ensure they are isolated and disempowered first.
Make an example of someone

Take a random person and denigrate them. Show that you can and will do this any opponents.

You can do it to an apparently strong person, to demonstrate that you are not afraid and will take on and defeat even the powerful. You can do it to a weak person, to show that nobody is safe from your ire. You can do it to an ordinary, guy-next-door person, to show that 'people like you' are not safe either.

Example

My opponent is a flip-flop man who cannot make up his mind. He changes mind with the breeze! How could anyone follow such a weak-willed flip-flopper?

Discussion

Mud sticks, as we all known. Name-calling associates the other person with something that is despised or is inferior in some way. Now, if anyone associates with that person, the mud will also stick to them. The more the other person is socially isolated, the more that others will avoid the person. The results is a spiral of isolation that neutralizes opponents and sends a chilling warning to those who might follow in that person's path.

Note how, especially in wartime, the other side gets given a whole slew of derogatory names. In the second world war, the Germans were called Huns, Krauts, the Boche, etc. The Japanese were called Nips, Japs, Slant-eyes, and so on.

Note also political elections, and how easily debates can descend into name-calling from which there is no recovery.

See also

Clyde Miller, Propaganda Analysis, NY: Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1937

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
is that rational thought in a CT thread!!!


Now tell me about rational thought still believing that 19 Arabs plotted and defeating the most highly funded and most comprehensive intelligence network on the face of the planet with box cutters after taking some (unsuccessful) flight training aboard small Cessna aircraft - after being allegedly masterminded by some guy (living on a kidney dialysis machine) in a cave in Afghanistan?


Riiiiiight

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

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Now if the planes hit up above, how come there were cars on fire at the base of the building?

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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Now if the planes hit up above, how come there were cars on fire at the base of the building?





please tell me you are not so obtuse that you can't even consider a jumbo jet slamming into a building couldn't set shit on fire on the streets 550 ft. below.

LOOK!

PLEASE tell be you are not so dense as to not even entertain the notion that, yes, multiple tons of debris, steel and airplane falling onto the plaza below COULD ACTUALLY break windows and "knock 10'x10' pieces of marble fascia" off in the lobby and set shit on fire. (from one of the other videos here of yours i cant find right now)

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culorut
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2007
Location: right here

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo


please tell me you are not so obtuse that you can't even consider a jumbo jet slamming into a building couldn't set shit on fire on the streets 550 ft. below.

LOOK!

PLEASE tell be you are not so dense as to not even entertain the notion that, yes, multiple tons of debris, steel and airplane falling onto the plaza below COULD ACTUALLY break windows and "knock 10'x10' pieces of marble fascia" off in the lobby and set shit on fire. (from one of the other videos here of yours i cant find right now)


Yes because jet fuel which burns almost instantly made its way down and burned the shit out all the surrounding cars.

Dense?

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colonelcrisp
Isn't Batshit Crazy



Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Ottawa

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Yes because jet fuel which burns almost instantly made its way down and burned the shit out all the surrounding cars.

Dense?


burning jet fuel + office materials, uphostery paper etc falling out of building = fire hitting ground and catching shit on fire......

and for the record jet fuel wont burn instantly. its fumes will but the liquid will stay there and burn for a while


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Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

Old Post Aug-30-2007 03:43  Canada
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culorut
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Registered: Jan 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
burning jet fuel + office materials, uphostery paper etc falling out of building = fire hitting ground and catching shit on fire......


Odd, exactly how then did all this burn these cars in a lot and under bridges nearby the WTC then?












The windows are blown out in just about every example and they are not exactly that close to the towers for the magic jet fuel and office materials LOL.

Looks exactly like pictures of when bombs go off, very big and powerful ones. Google what is going on in the Mideast at the moment and maybe you will get the picture.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Odd, exactly how then did all this burn these cars in a lot and under bridges nearby the WTC then?

The windows are blown out in just about every example and they are not exactly that close to the towers for the magic jet fuel and office materials LOL.

Looks exactly like pictures of when bombs go off, very big and powerful ones. Google what is going on in the Mideast at the moment and maybe you will get the picture.


fuck youre retarded. those photos are from after the towers fell, anything could have happened to them after the collapses. jesus christ. whats even more retarded is that you equate it to bomb explosives, yet youre a champion of "super secret govt thermite" which isnt an explosive. so now we're meant to believe they used different sorts of explosives, and did so in such a way that would burn cars in a pretty significant radius. good clandestine plan you've got there!


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