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Originally posted by InterMilan31 "What about the American fans? What about Formula One fans worldwide? Rather than boycott the race the Michelin teams should have agreed to run at reduced speed in turn 13," FIA said, referring to the part of the Indianapolis circuit that Michelin said was too fast for their tires.

What crap fromt the FIA.

How the fuck could they have managed that. How slow? Were they planning to speedtrap 14 cars every lap and call any that went over the magic number in for drive-through penalty's? Given that Michelin didn't even know the tyres were unsafe until the weekend started were they suddenly going to pull a number from a hat and declare it the maximum safe speed. What about the other cars? Even the Minardi's would have spent the last part of every lap dodging braking Michelin runners.


The FIA should have put in a chicane (the day before the race) and told Ferrari "if you want to race the points are all yours, otherwise have fun watching from the pits".

Farce farce farce.

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Originally posted by Spad What crap fromt the FIA. How the fuck could they have managed that. How slow? Were they planning to speedtrap 14 cars every lap and call any that went over the magic number in for drive-through penalty's? Given that Michelin didn't even know the tyres were unsafe until the weekend started were they suddenly going to pull a number from a hat and declare it the maximum safe speed. What about the other cars? Even the Minardi's would have spent the last part of every lap dodging braking Michelin runners. The FIA should have put in a chicane (the day before the race) and told Ferrari "if you want to race the points are all yours, otherwise have fun watching from the pits". Farce farce farce.

perhaps.

I as far as I remember only one team, Toyota was having trouble on that corner. Which suggests that the problem is with the way the Toyota was loading that tyre. Not exclusively the Michelin equipment. It's all politics.

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Michelin’s statement in full:

Straight talk and a sincere gesture for the American spectators: It could have been an exciting race.

One week after the Indianapolis Grand Prix, Michelin wishes to make a sincere gesture of goodwill towards the people present at the GP, a group whose passion for F1 is encouraging in the development of this sport in the United States.

Therefore, on our own initiative and in total solidarity with our partners, we have taken two decisions:

1. Michelin has decided to contribute to the costs incurred by the spectators present at the circuit on Sunday June 19th 2005 by offering to refund their tickets. This is an important decision, since Michelin is not at all legally bound to do this.

Michelin deeply regrets that the public was deprived of an exciting race and therefore wishes to be the first, among the different groups involved in the Indianapolis race, to make a strong gesture towards the spectators.

2. Michelin also offers to buy 20,000 tickets for the 2006 U.S. Grand Prix to be given to spectators who were present at the Indianapolis race in 2005. We are offering this to promote further Formula One interest in the United States.

We would also like to take this opportunity to underline the fact that it is unacceptable that our partner teams have been accused by the FIA of having boycotted the Indianapolis Grand Prix. The reality is that together, Michelin and its partners have done everything possible to assure that the race could take place in total safety.

We are extremely disappointed that the proposals made with all our teams were not accepted. These proposals, including a chicane, were technically viable and totally met all safety requirements. On Sunday morning, June 19, the sporting authority had all the means necessary to preserve the interest of the race.

And yet, the sporting authority rejected the proposed solutions. Why? In our view this is totally incomprehensible and reflects a lack of respect for the spectators.

It is the spirit of respect for the spectators that brought us, with our partners, to propose solutions to allow the race to take place in total safety. It is this same spirit that leads us today to make this gesture.

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How do I get my money back, anyone know where I need to go? There's nothing about it in the Michelin, FIA, or F1 website.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter We would also like to take this opportunity to underline the fact that it is unacceptable that our partner teams have been accused by the FIA of having boycotted the Indianapolis Grand Prix. The reality is that together, Michelin and its partners have done everything possible to assure that the race could take place in total safety. We are extremely disappointed that the proposals made with all our teams were not accepted. These proposals, including a chicane, were technically viable and totally met all safety requirements. On Sunday morning, June 19, the sporting authority had all the means necessary to preserve the interest of the race. And yet, the sporting authority rejected the proposed solutions. Why? In our view this is totally incomprehensible and reflects a lack of respect for the spectators. It is the spirit of respect for the spectators that brought us, with our partners, to propose solutions to allow the race to take place in total safety. It is this same spirit that leads us today to make this gesture.

Couldn't agree more.

Fair play to them for what they're offering too, no need for them to do this.

Let's hope it's a good one this weekend. Pedro & Montoya fastest in practice.

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Originally posted by DarkFall01 How do I get my money back, anyone know where I need to go? There's nothing about it in the Michelin, FIA, or F1 website.

Im getting mine back I called the Indy Speed Way and they gave me the instructions.

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Originally posted by InterMilan31 Im getting mine back I called the Indy Speed Way and they gave me the instructions.

What do you have to do? I just called and the lady said that it's kind of automatic. I'm on their DB and that I should also check the website when the plans are made, that's it, I pretty much don't have to do anything

What I talked to a guy and he said that I should sent in my ticket stub to a specific address which I cant find now, and I should get my refund in 6-8 weeks

Michilins home track good ol' Magny Cours, I can clearly see another McLaren vs Renault battle here. Ferrari are the third contenders but i don;t think they have much to offer by looking at practise times.

Forza La Rosse

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French Grand Prix qualifying:

1 Fernando Alonso (Spa) Renault 1min 14.412secs
2 Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:14.521
3 Michael Schumacher (Ger) Ferrari 1:14.572
4 Takuma Sato (Jpn) BAR 1:14.655
5 Rubens Barrichello (Bra) Ferrari 1:14.832
6 Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Renault 1:14.887
7 Jenson Button (GB) BAR 1:15.051
8 Juan Montoya (Col) McLaren 1:15.406
9 Felipe Massa (Bra) Sauber 1:15.566
10 Jacques Villeneuve (Can) Sauber 1:15.699
11 Ralf Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:15.771
12 Mark Webber (Aus) Williams 1:15.885
13 Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) McLaren 1:14.559*
14 Nick Heidfeld (Ger) Williams 1:16.207
15 David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull 1:16.434
16 Christian Klien (Aut) Red Bull 1:16.547
17 Narain Karthikeyan (Ind) Jordan 1:17.857
18 Patrick Freisacher (Aut) Minardi 1:17.960
19 Tiago Monteiro (Por) Jordan 1:18.047
20 Christijan Albers (Ned) Minardi 1:18.335

Grid looks pretty good - although the ferrari's are too high for my liking , shame kimi had to be put down 10 places.

One of the finest grid line ups all year, actually this year has been so far pretty good with the grid formation (better than last year anyway). This will be a very good race, although there is not much passing opportunities I am keen to see how Kimi and Michael will play their part in this race

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boring race, alonso totally dominated, good comeback from raikkonen from the 13th position

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