I just don't like impossibly long breakdowns.

My favourite trance tracks are the ones that have small ones (2-4 bars, tops), or none at all.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 they are intelligent, but not in agreement, because they do not have an ojective view of music

but more importantly they will explain themseleves if you ask them.

This fosters the debate and exchange of ideas. Thus an objective view of EDM can be created. You compare the similarities and undserstand the differences.

But in order to make a discussion on EDM objective you need people to explain themselves and provide examples. The good arguements are kept alive whilst the poorly shaped arugemnts are shit on.



Thus far Ishkurs defintion of Epic Trance still stands. Please view his EDM Guide for his defintions on http://www.ishkur.com/music/#.

Prove and show me examples of Dutch Trance that doesn't fit his defintion.

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Last edited by Blue Balls on Mar-13-2005 at 00:00

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Originally posted by dj christian the trance music isn't dead but it is more in deep shit. That's Tiesto and Ferry's fault. Their success has made them confused because of the money being made and that leading to what trance is today. We really need new talented producers who has the ability to make good trancemusic not some newbies making crap on ejay.

John O'callaghan and MArcos are just two of the great producers around at the moment.

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Originally posted by Ishkur I just don't like impossibly long breakdowns. My favourite trance tracks are the ones that have small ones (2-4 bars, tops), or none at all.

Keep up the good work !!!

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Originally posted by Blue Balls Thus far Ishkurs defintion of Epic Trance still stands. Please view his EDM Guide for his defintions on http://www.ishkur.com/music/#. Prove and show me examples of Dutch Trance that doesn't fit his defintion.

Vimana - Dreamtime

made by tiesto & ferry and does not have a breakdown.

Corsten is definetly NOT killing trance. If anything hes just extending it!

How can you say Rock Your Body Rock is killin it!

Ishkur is a nerd.

Last edited by Rapid3 on Mar-13-2005 at 01:33

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Originally posted by Ishkur Actually, Oakenfold killed trance, but since it was a Dutch trance music node, I felt it'd be proper to put a Dutch guy, less I get a million stupid emails from people wanting to "correct" me that Oakenfold is british.....but the name is really not that important. It could've been Tiesto or Armin, it didn't really matter to me, so long as it was someone prominant and Dutch enough to rile trancecrackers. And from the looks of things, it succeeded. There's a reason why I only cited you guys in the credits. I love you all so much. As for the rest of it.....am I joking? Am I being serious? Or am I being serious about joking? I think that's part of its charm.

Brilliant

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Originally posted by Blue Balls Brilliant

You are either ishkur logged in under a different name or just love the taste of his ass.

j/k

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Originally posted by JakeC and does not have a breakdown.

That means it is not Dutch Epic Trance.

Because by defintion Dutch Epic Trance must have a long break down.

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Nothing But You by Paul Van Dyk



Is that Dutch Epic Trance???



Regardless I like the song.

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Originally posted by Blue Balls That means it is not Dutch Epic Trance. Because by defintion Dutch Epic Trance must have a long break down.

have you heard it it is definelty epic trance.

then what the fuck is this whole discussion on about then?


epic trance has its long fucking breakdowns like hip hop has its rappers