if there aint no mp3, there aint no scene. try it.

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Originally posted by PEZ68 hey ralphie , any news about 'First State' release date ?

One of the near releases on ITWT.

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Originally posted by Denser if there aint no mp3, there aint no scene. try it.

A big ol' hearty LOL to this. I seem to recall there was quite a scene long before MP3s were even a buzzword.

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I pay for music when i enjoy it and can buy it in a music store. I wouldnt know where to go to find compilations the likes of which my fav DJ's spin in their sets. Therefore i purchase music mostly from "commercial" artists but download EDM sets and sometimes singles because i cant get them on CD.

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That tranceaddict sure set me straight... when i said dj. sammy roxord he said "wtf? you n00b..."

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Originally posted by Subtle if u trance producers and record companies could have focus a but more on quality..

The top sellers now don't sell as much as back then. So you are saying all music is inferior compared to say 7 years ago?

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Originally posted by Denser if there aint no mp3, there aint no scene. try it.

I don't know where you live but here in Europe the dance scene is promoted by dj's. They can make a record big or not. I can't recall a song that's not spun by dj's but still big....

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Originally posted by Benno de Goeij The top sellers now don't sell as much as back then. So you are saying all music is inferior compared to say 7 years ago?

7 years ago, u would have to the record stores to get the track/album u wanted.. if u would buy a single.. i would have a plastic cover and a couple of remixes and B-Sides..

Trance music was better before, until everybody wanted, and could produce, the marked is overflowing.. so.. if the record companies could focus on getting more quality stuff released.. it would definitely help the scene..

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Originally posted by Subtle 7 years ago, u would have to the record stores to get the track/album u wanted.. if u would buy a single.. i would have a plastic cover and a couple of remixes and B-Sides.. Trance music was better before, until everybody wanted, and could produce, the marked is overflowing.. so.. if the record companies could focus on getting more quality stuff released.. it would definitely help the scene..

That's why I said: ALL music sold more, not just trance. So in my opinion music isn't selling less because it's not as good as then. All music styles suffer. But if what you say is true, ALL music would be less good as it was back then, because all music styles sell less.

But as for trance, i think record companies already do filter out the bad stuff, because it's very hard to release something and reach a break evenpoint.

I'am not going to argue with you whether you think the music is as good as back then or not. Freedom of taste and speech rules!

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*looks at his Kamaya Painters - Wasteland record*
I love that record.

See? Even older stuff that was released a while ago I still buy. It's funny. If I had been born a few years earlier I would have been much more current with these songs.

But as it stands, I still download and buy older tracks as well as newer tracks, because a lot of the olders stuff is new to me.
It's been 6 years or so since I've been into EDM, but there's some older gems that always surprise me and I buy.

Nou was kinda ranking on me buying old tracks because, as a DJ most people want to hear more current stuff, but I BUY music because I want the 12"; I want something tangible in my hand.

So yes. In the techincal written law. Downloading music, is a COPYright violation. So I agree with Benno, and many others. IT IS STEALING. And really. That shouldn't be even argued. It can be JUSTIFIED one way or the other, but no one can say "I am not stealing."

But without stealing, I wouldn't love this genre (and as put as much money into it, with buying records and stuff to mix and produce with as well as going to live events) as much as I do today. Unlike older people, I didn't get into it by going to parties and clubs (plus I live in America and the scene wasn't as pronounced); so hats off to P2P and the internet as a whole because that's how I got into the stuff.

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Originally posted by DJFreaq (plus I live in America and the scene wasn't as pronounced); so hats off to P2P and the internet as a whole because that's how I got into the stuff.

For places where the trance scene isn't really big, it's indeed good promotion. Gotta thank you for actually buying the stuff you liked, so hats off to u too!

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wow man! such a long thread!

let's be real, all producers here at TA knows what takes to release a track. so naturally we understood that p2p actually is stealing in a way, but also is a great distribution system (if you're into mainstream). in p2p networks you can find (mostly) popular music and radio hits, in other words mainstream music (comercial in any kind of music, ex: britney spears, paul van dyk, tiesto) anything else is in most cases imposible, so anyway we end buying the record, and i 'm sure that like me most of you have a fav record wich is very undergroung artist. besides all of we can tell the diference between the original material (12" or cd) and a mp3 at 128kbps.

p2p has contributed with distribution but mostly comercial music wich anyway will be known sooner or later.

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Originally posted by fabio_trevez wow man! such a long thread! let's be real, all producers here at TA knows what takes to release a track. so naturally we understood that p2p actually is stealing in a way, but also is a great distribution system (if you're into mainstream). in p2p networks you can find (mostly) popular music and radio hits, in other words mainstream music (comercial in any kind of music, ex: britney spears, paul van dyk, tiesto) anything else is in most cases imposible, so anyway we end buying the record, and i 'm sure that like me most of you have a fav record wich is very undergroung artist. besides all of we can tell the diference between the original material (12" or cd) and a mp3 at 128kbps. p2p has contributed with distribution but mostly comercial music wich anyway will be known sooner or later.

ahhahaha your name is fabio thats hilarious !!!!!!!!!! do u have sliked black hair....