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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
because this is not America, and the whole wide wonderful world knows it.


It's thinking like this that just got us in trouble in the first place; did you miss the arrests or something?

it's a good thing we have on the ball RCMP and CSIS who happily don't suffer from such thinking...


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Goashem
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Registered: Mar 2004
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i really feel for the muslims that have to defend themselves from the ignorant.


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nismodreams
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Registered: May 2003
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a muslim guy told me "we dont WANT to bend over five times a day but we HAVE to..."

and a muslim woman told me "we dont WANT to cover ourselves in black but we HAVE to..."

who are you kidding?

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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by nismodreams
a muslim guy told me "we dont WANT to bend over five times a day but we HAVE to..."

and a muslim woman told me "we dont WANT to cover ourselves in black but we HAVE to..."

who are you kidding?


I wouldn't go so far as to ridicule.
Each to their own I say; it's when it starts affecting others that I have issue...


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starsearcher
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Registered: Jan 2003
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They don't need to cover themselves in black - the religion has nothing to do with it, it's a culturla issue as far as I understand...and I don't get it - pure opression of women.


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AC-Milan
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I don't get it - pure opression of women.


not to mention clitorectomy.....poor girls can't even play with themselves when their husbands are banging their other wives.

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crazedcanuck
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Red Deer, AB

The thing that is most startling, is that they were mostly Canadian Citizens.

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7-4-7
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Scarborough, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
It's thinking like this that just got us in trouble in the first place; did you miss the arrests or something?

it's a good thing we have on the ball RCMP and CSIS who happily don't suffer from such thinking...


I didnt realise that media coverage of an event, exploitation of minuscule amounts of information and an whole lot of speculation was reason enough to lay a judgement of guilt.

To adopt american "thought" processes, like yours is, is exactly the kind of "thinking" we dont need here.

then again, immediate guilt on the basis of terrorist speculation is the american way, good luck with that.

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MarkT
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crazedcanuck
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quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
I didnt realise that media coverage of an event, exploitation of minuscule amounts of information and an whole lot of speculation was reason enough to lay a judgement of guilt.

To adopt american "thought" processes, like yours is, is exactly the kind of "thinking" we dont need here.

then again, immediate guilt on the basis of terrorist speculation is the american way, good luck with that.


Actually, you missed his point IMO.

Your assertion that "because this is not America, and the whole wide wonderful world knows it." seemed to imply that we are somehow different in the eyes of those who would seek to attack western nations.

That has nothing to do with the guilt of this particular party, but the notion that their arrests have made that we are indeed vulnerable to attack.

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7-4-7
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Scarborough, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by crazedcanuck
Actually, you missed his point IMO.

Your assertion that "because this is not America, and the whole wide wonderful world knows it." seemed to imply that we are somehow different in the eyes of those who would seek to attack western nations.

That has nothing to do with the guilt of this particular party, but the notion that their arrests have made that we are indeed vulnerable to attack.



on comment number 1, when has Canada ever been attacked, or mentioned in attack before 9/11? what historical data supports your claim that we have reason to beleive that before this, first 'possible' threat, we have ever had substantial reason to beleive that we, as an indipendant nation, was at risk. There is none, our closest terrorist threat was by separtist Quebec parties several, several years ago.

Comment 2 This has everything to do with the guilt of this party, everything. Because IMO there is and was never a threat. If these individuals are cleared, then their guilt was never in question, thus a 'threat' never existed.

"Vulnerable to attack" - ala bush, cheney, ashcroft, rice that is american language, leave it on cnn

oh, and I never miss the point, we see differant sides.

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MarkT
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
I didnt realise that media coverage of an event, exploitation of minuscule amounts of information and an whole lot of speculation was reason enough to lay a judgement of guilt.

To adopt american "thought" processes, like yours is, is exactly the kind of "thinking" we dont need here.

then again, immediate guilt on the basis of terrorist speculation is the american way, good luck with that.


hasn't all that has been presumed here is that there is sufficient evidence to warrant an arrest and trial? I think CSIS, the RCMP, and the other various police forces involved deserve *at least* that much of a benefit of the doubt.

it's your apparent skeptical attitude towards a long-term investigation by various policing organizations that is more troubling than anyone's alleged presumption that there must be *something* to these charges to have warranted the use of such extensive investigative resources.

how about we let our courts do their job before making dismissive remarks such as "because this is not America, and the whole wide wonderful world knows it."?

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