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Originally posted by gallantrybot It might be half argument and half public service announcement but it's definitely not plagiarism until one forgets to reference the source material.

You never made an argument. Did you forget or do you want to keep posting other people's arguments as your very own?

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Anyway, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't, aren't I? If I were to waste my time on you by speaking at length about anything at all, you would say that I'm just an anonymous person on the internet with no credibility. But when I point to others who are noted or at least somewhat reputable in our society who have already covered the same material in one aspect or another, you erroneously say that I'm plagiarizing.

The fact that you feel above all of us to attempt to address our points with your own well thought out arguments merely demonstrates your feeble ability to regurgitate other people's arguments as your own. Hence, plagiarism. Or propagandizing. Take your pick...

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It would normally be a good tactic for someone like yourself to detract from what anyone else has to say but I caught on to it a while ago and thus have to call it out for the blindly adversarial and propagandistic BS that it is.

What do you have to say? We're STILL waiting. All you ever do is regurgitate other people's arguments. Funny you speak of "propagandistic BS". See, we speak our minds. You relay, like the plagiarizing fish you are, extremist libertarian propaganda. Nice one champ...

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It's also rather interesting to note how you goons posted so little in this forum while I was gone but I pop in for just a few quick posts and you all scurry back here again to try and discredit me.

Still running around with a bloated ego are we? LOL...Get over yourself m8...

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Originally posted by Krypton You never made an argument. Did you forget or do you want to keep posting other people's arguments as your very own? The fact that you feel above all of us to attempt to address our points with your own well thought out arguments merely demonstrates your feeble ability to regurgitate other people's arguments as your own. Hence, plagiarism. Or propagandizing. Take your pick... What do you have to say? We're STILL waiting. All you ever do is regurgitate other people's arguments. Funny you speak of "propagandistic BS". See, we speak our minds. You relay, like the plagiarizing fish you are, extremist libertarian propaganda. Nice one champ... Still running around with a bloated ego are we? LOL...Get over yourself m8...

The argument had been made quite some time ago. Or did YOU forget?

It's not that I feel above anyone. Quite the opposite, really. I really just don't have the time or the patience to argue with a bunch of blind contrarians who fail to see the writing on the wall even after I've already shoved their faces in it and screamed, "LOOOOOK!!!" on more occasions than I even care to count.

I also wouldn't call regurgitating the governments talking points your "own well thought out arguments" because it's still really the same color but just in a different tone.

Extremist Libertarian propaganda? lol - But wasn't our country originally founded upon Libertarian principles? Hence, why America is was "the land of the free and the home of the brave." Oh yeah, I forgot, we've gone socialist now and to speak of those Libertarian principles has become equivalent to treason.

And you wonder why I put you on ignore the first time? You can't even maintain a simple correspondence without resorting to personal attacks in the effort to denigrate me and/or the efforts that I've put forth in order to shed the light of truth upon the dark recesses of our world.

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Originally posted by gallantrybot The argument had been made quite some time ago. Or did YOU forget?

Go ahead and link me your argument then.

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It's not that I feel above anyone. Quite the opposite, really. I really just don't have the time or the patience to argue with a bunch of blind contrarians who fail to see the writing on the wall even after I've already shoved their faces in it and screamed, "LOOOOOK!!!" on more occasions than I even care to count.

You refuse to debate because you can't debate.

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I also wouldn't call regurgitating the governments talking points your "own well thought out arguments" because it's still really the same color but just in a different tone.

Please, link me the post where I simply copy and paste off of some government website...

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Extremist Libertarian propaganda? lol - But wasn't our country originally founded upon Libertarian principles? Hence, why America is was "the land of the free and the home of the brave." Oh yeah, I forgot, we've gone socialist now and to speak of those Libertarian principles has become equivalent to treason.

We've gone socialist? So everything should be "every man for himself" huh? No regulations. Let the market handle everything! That's like getting rid of all traffic laws and trusting drivers not to drive 120MPH everywhere they go. There's nothing wrong with libertarianism. But your radicalism reeks of the worst potential possibilities of liberty. Your idea of liberty is no different in its potential for tyranny than any other political philosophy. What do you want? Liberty? What kind of liberty? Positive or negative? Freedom from others or a state in which individuals can realize their full potential? Both can lead to tyranny. So what the hell are you so high and mighty about? The state can decide they know what's best to realize people's full potential. Guess what that is? Tyranny. And this freedom from others which libertarians always talk about. I'm all for that...except it only works in a world in which all person's are rational, which they are not. What if I want your car? I should have the freedom to take it from you, since you think regulation is "socialist".

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And you wonder why I put you on ignore the first time? You can't even maintain a simple correspondence without resorting to personal attacks in the effort to denigrate me and/or the efforts that I've put forth in order to shed the light of truth upon the dark recesses of our world.

Personal attacks? LOL. You should talk. How many times did you call me stupid, blind, "sheep"? I criticize you and try to get you to debate, but you are for some reason, sensitive to criticism, and refuse to debate because debating isn't "worth your time". LOL. With that kind of attitude, I will certainly enjoy knocking you off your pedestal.

Now, are you ready for a debate, or are you just going to continue this high-than-thou, "I know the ultimate truth and you don't", bullshit? I'm certainly ready for a serious exchange. Without plagiarizing too...

NOTE: Since you believe you know the ultimate truth, read this...

"For when a political leadership believes that they hold the philosophical key to a better future, this sublime end can be used to justify drastic and brutal means." -Berlin, Isaiah. Four Essays on Liberty. 1969.

Yea, that includes your utopian ideal of a libertarian paradise...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN just when i thought we were free of the ron paul nutcases...

Where did you get the idea that libertarians were against traffic lights and police krypt? You are making a huge strawman if you are basing your attacks on that.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN watch out krypton, he'll sue you.

I have a feeling that was the result of a mental breakdown. Apparently a bot, no matter how gallant, can only hold so much 'wisdom.'

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Originally posted by gallantrybot I really just don't have the time or the patience to argue with a bunch of blind contrarians who fail to see the writing on the wall even after I've already shoved their faces in it and screamed, "LOOOOOK!!!" on more occasions than I even care to count.

Well, we're all glad you're back too.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Where did you get the idea that libertarians were against traffic lights and police krypt? You are making a huge strawman if you are basing your attacks on that.

I didn't say they were. You are for laissez-faire capitalism. Letting the market handle everything. I was simply making a metaphor for a market let lose to do what it pleased.

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don't you just love how quickly this place fills up with stupid when trancer is around? he doesn't even understand how central banks work, and ron paul sure as fuck doesn't either.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN don't you just love how quickly this place fills up with stupid when trancer is around? he doesn't even understand how central banks work, and ron paul sure as fuck doesn't either.

The Orwellian Newspeak is definitely in full swing when PKC hits the boards. lol

I don't think that anybody knows how the central bankers work besides the central bankers themselves, hence the reason why legislation was introduced to audit them.

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