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Originally posted by malek Why not let the consumers be themselves and decide what's best for them. I don't believe consumers are that dumb as you tend to portray it, but they do chose what is the most convenient for themselves during a particular moment.

because that won't involve making earth friendly decisions for a lot of people. I personally use a reusable bag because it is more durable and has more structure.

Also, consumers still have the choice to bring a reusable bag or not. It's not like they've banned plastic bags here.

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Originally posted by Skipper Also, consumers still have the choice to bring a reusable bag or not. It's not like they've banned plastic bags here.

give it time

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced give it time

That's not a reasonable argument eh? Complain about it when it happens.

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Originally posted by malek MarkT without any incentive or legislation you chose reusable bags like thousands others, it seems by reading your post, way before this bylaw. No one forced you to abandon plastic bags, you made the choice. Awareness takes years to entrench itself within the consumers habits, you are an early adopter, others will follow. Why not let the consumers be themselves and decide what's best for them. I don't believe consumers are that dumb as you tend to portray it, but they do chose what is the most convenient for themselves during a particular moment. ...

some people, perhaps even a significant %, will choose to change their ways for the better without being forced (or even incented) I could be wrong, but IMHO the 'early adopters' (even at this not-so-early point) are still the exception, not the norm. I think the majority of people still need an obvious and/or imminent negative consequence to not changing their behaviour before they will choose to do so on their own. I think in a lot of cases, waiting for that to occur is waiting too long...

I am indeed a pessimist

I still don't see a problem with charging for something that has both explicit and implicit costs. We probably should have been paying for them from the start.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I still don't see a problem with charging for something that has both explicit and implicit costs. We probably should have been paying for them from the start.

We have been, the cost of the bags have been covered by the price of the goods we buy.

If you're only stating that the costs should have been separated on the receipt, then sure, it woulda been nice.

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Originally posted by Spam We have been, the cost of the bags have been covered by the price of the goods we buy.

Ok fine, but if I bring my own bag (or don't use a bag) then I shouldn't be charged.

Itemized pricing is preferred versus "all in" pricing.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Ok fine, but if I bring my own bag (or don't use a bag) then I shouldn't be charged. Itemized pricing is preferred versus "all in" pricing.

do you really think the stores will reducing the prices of the goods? I highly doubt it

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Ok fine, but if I bring my own bag (or don't use a bag) then I shouldn't be charged. Itemized pricing is preferred versus "all in" pricing.

Agreed.

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