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Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

Well it certainly gives motive for them to be as lax with safety procedures as possible. Not saying this was a planned sabotage, but it's understandable why people would not trust this sort of profiteering, especially when disasters become suspiciously prevalent.

Not saying it's a fair judgment, it just is what it is.


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The17sss
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Motive for BP to be lax with safety procedures? I don't get it- they are losing millions per day.

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Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
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No, not BP - other, separate industries that can be contracted for the cleanup because there is a private market they can suffice. I'm just saying- it's a conspiracy!

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The17sss
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Ahhh... well hopefully the deals with cleanup companies/entities will be highly scrutinized. Kickbacks, nepotism, backroom deals, etc. are always an unfortunate byproduct. Its such a high profile thing and a limited number of capable companies will be involved that it will probably be cleaner than a typical project put out for bid though.

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Nrg2Nfinit
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overall toyota has lost more then BP with their recall compared to this cleanup. at least 2 billion dollar loss for toyota, BP can easily afford to continue playing this game with their 250 billion plus annual revenue. So far the past month has cost them slightly under a billion dollars.

I think severe penalties need to be placed on BP and their maintenance blunders. If an oil spill of this magnitude cannot be stopped, then offshore drilling should only occur in shallow areas or not at all.

With regards to alternatives, people will not switch until the prices become unfeasible. And to those idiots in here blaming capitalism, You are all consumers feeding the big money machine. You have to solve the worlds environmental problems with capitalism, Its simply a matter of marketing it. Sanctions on drilling, increasing comoditiy prices, development of alternative energy resources.

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Ang ' ela_ie
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Registered: Jul 2004
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Dudes. In 2009, they made 67 million USD per DAY. It's fucking sickening. Thank god theyve promised to pay all claims up to 50 million dollars. WHEW! I was worried there for a while.

The Obama administration needs to wring them DRY.


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The17sss
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If an oil spill of this magnitude cannot be stopped, then offshore drilling should only occur in shallow areas or not at all.


exactly.... as wonderfully pointed out by Charles Krauthammer:

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Here's my question: Why were we drilling in 5,000 feet of water in the first place? Many reasons, but this one goes unmentioned: Environmental chic has driven us out there. As production from the shallower Gulf of Mexico wells declines, we go deep (1,000 feet and more) and ultra deep (5,000 feet and more), in part because environmentalists have succeeded in rendering the Pacific and nearly all the Atlantic coast off-limits to oil production. And of course, in the safest of all places, on land, we've had a 30-year ban on drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

There will always be catastrophic oil spills. You make them as rare as humanly possible, but where would you rather have one: in the Gulf of Mexico, upon which thousands depend for their livelihood, or in the Arctic, where there are practically no people? All spills seriously damage wildlife. That's a given. But why have we pushed the drilling from the barren to the populated, from the remote wilderness to a center of fishing, shipping, tourism and recreation?

Not that the environmentalists are the only ones to blame. Not by far. But it is odd that they've escaped any mention at all.

Rest of article here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...0052702988.html

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ROFL

I love how people blame environmentalists for this. Fucking bullshit excuse, looking for other people to point their fingers at to pass the blame along. "We didn't want to drill here! You made us! You forced us to do this!"

Fucking bullshit.

Interesting and humorous article on BP's booming:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/11/11558/1890


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quote:
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Krauthammer



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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On


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Exactly. Krauthammer sounds like some mod on Stormfront.


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