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Originally posted by deadmau5 i just sit here and work away on all sorts of fun projects, and when im done those, i sit back and take enjoyment from putting a smile on someones face, or a tune in their head. Dont think for a second "isnt cool like..." or "sucks because" actually contributes to anything other than making yourself look like a complete fuckin idiot who lacks the means to do it the way they see fit. and whats the deal with all this "scene" shit? fuck "the scene" dude. What the fuck is "the scene" anyway? this shit? can someone clear this up for me? because all i get is, "the scene" is a buncha forum kids, each claiming to know more about EDM, the music business, and everything else in life, than the next.

None of this is new, the flak you receive on here unfortunately comes with the territory -- prior to you it was Armin who got slagged, and before that Tiesto, and before that Oakenfold.

It's no fun to come back from the hotel after an amazing gig only to see someone slamming you (or your set) but that's what happens. You could have a thread with 100 positive reviews but it's the one negative one that eats away at you. It takes A LOT to not reply back to defend yourself. I'm not a DJ so I can't comment on that aspect but I have heard enough over the years. It's a slippery slope - even if you are in the right, and come in to defend yourself, you always run the risk of making the problem worse -- those that don't like you won't care what you have to say and those that are on the fence sometimes see your response as being ego/power tripping related. The ones that rise to your defence, are seen as 'kissing ass/ball washing'...it's all fucked up.

TA, for the most part, lets people say what they want without repercussion... I don't censor things and TA doesn't have many rules because life is full of rules and once you wrap too many rules around something it becomes less fun. The major caveat of that is then you end up having ppl threatening to sue you for defamation because of comments said about them on your forum. Believe it or not, this place was once all all lovey dovey. Like most forums in their early stages, many people know each other and don't want to push boundaries... but as things grow ppl want to carve out their own little niche and label those that are too positive as either EDM n00bs or kissing ass for some nefarious purpose.

Also, from my experience, the negativity seems to be worse in Toronto. It's one reason why it's nice to travel to hit up a party - it's a completely different experience. Some would argue the 'scene' evolved into this after 'raves' migrated into nightclubs and dancefloors migrated into havens for bootle service booths... but that's a topic for another thread.

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This place really did use to be 'lovey dovey' as you put it. Right on right on my brotha.

As for the negativity here in TO, it's for sure forcing people into clubs. The stamping out of most Edm festivals. So sad. I can't think of any other reason as to why.

At the very least if there was a balance of everything, festivals AND big parties then things would be a lot better.

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Originally posted by Swamper Also, from my experience, the negativity seems to be worse in Toronto.

yup. The rest of your post was bang on too.

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whatever, if anything i personally always defend him because i appreciate the fact that he actually makes and has always made music himself unlike many of his (just as popular) colleagues. It is not something i really like or listen to a lot but i can appreciate why people like his music. Like Zyklon said he is the mid-step in between popular house music and other less popular edm and people that would like to dig and find out more about lesser known music get that chance, it's a great thing for this city as we need a new generation of people once we get older. Although i've listened to electronic music since 91 i never went out or paid attention to electronic music until i got exposed to tiesto. I hate him now he was that step for me and i'm grateful for that.

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Originally posted by Swamper None of this is new, the flak you receive on here unfortunately comes with the territory -- prior to you it was Armin who got slagged, and before that Tiesto, and before that Oakenfold. It's no fun to come back from the hotel after an amazing gig only to see someone slamming you (or your set) but that's what happens. You could have a thread with 100 positive reviews but it's the one negative one that eats away at you. It takes A LOT to not reply back to defend yourself. I'm not a DJ so I can't comment on that aspect but I have heard enough over the years. It's a slippery slope - even if you are in the right, and come in to defend yourself, you always run the risk of making the problem worse -- those that don't like you won't care what you have to say and those that are on the fence sometimes see your response as being ego/power tripping related. The ones that rise to your defence, are seen as 'kissing ass/ball washing'...it's all fucked up. TA, for the most part, lets people say what they want without repercussion... I don't censor things and TA doesn't have many rules because life is full of rules and once you wrap too many rules around something it becomes less fun. The major caveat of that is then you end up having ppl threatening to sue you for defamation because of comments said about them on your forum. Believe it or not, this place was once all all lovey dovey. Like most forums in their early stages, many people know each other and don't want to push boundaries... but as things grow ppl want to carve out their own little niche and label those that are too positive as either EDM n00bs or kissing ass for some nefarious purpose. Also, from my experience, the negativity seems to be worse in Toronto. It's one reason why it's nice to travel to hit up a party - it's a completely different experience. Some would argue the 'scene' evolved into this after 'raves' migrated into nightclubs and dancefloors migrated into havens for bootle service booths... but that's a topic for another thread.

I've always found it funny when partying abroad, that the crowd is extremely educated with EDM and yet, when a 'cheesy' song comes on, by critic's definition, it's still generally well received. The crowd doesn't seem to care for the most part, and it's all about the vibe of the party/festival. They still manage to throw MASSIVE huge ass festivals/parties, so they must be doing something right.

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Yep.


Less Dj worship, more partying for partyings' sake.

I posted a link to something funny that guy Iskhur has on his site: "The Trance Cracker", google it ppl. Hilarious.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Yep. Less Dj worship, more partying for partyings' sake. I posted a link to something funny that guy Iskhur has on his site: "The Trance Cracker", google it ppl. Hilarious.

ishkur posted in my thread in music discussion, knowledgeable guy

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and there you go people the Swamper is also a Sweeper.

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Originally posted by geroin ishkur posted in my thread in music discussion, knowledgeable guy

Yeah man. Oldschool from the US it seems.

Also, he can be a bit extreme in terms of dj bashing but meh. I agree w the dj worship thing...or have started to in the last little while anyway.

Last time I went to Guv didn't pay too much attention to what he was doing, just what the dj was playing...turned my back to them and saw how into it the crowd was. It was pretty fun/cool.

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he's from Vancouver.

he got a little famous for this:

http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

he isn't always right, but he is wonderful at making the trance crackers angry.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Oh, preese, so sorree for intorrerance fwum esss russer. He maka fun of you because you tarking in racial stereotype. I aporogize for heem. He not know how behave. Preeze accept aporogee. Ching chang chow yun fat, Mr. Roboto.

Guys you really have to stop referring to the mouse as a DJ...

It makes him angry...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.