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Originally posted by Psy-T sigh, i wonder how many thousands of times will christina have to repeat her answers until they becomes common knowledge.

most transexuals ive talked to are used to it, they realize that they are a minority and as such they may have to explain themselves more to be understood. they often even have to explain themselves to other transexuals, because its a very unique depending with each person to person like any other sexual thing.

if they get sick of it, they either have to go back to their birth gender physically, or be "stealth" or just develop a social technique that discourages people asking questions.

or were you just talking about on the tranceaddict forum?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I think this needs a little clarification. edit: and as far as metaphors go, I'd say that men hold the key...and that women hold the door and the room.

it's hard to explain because it was one of those ideas that made perfect sense when i really thought about it but it's more of a feeling that is hard to convey. i was reading a book called infidel by ayaan hirsi ali, and she talks about the abuse and subjugation of women that is inherent in islam. she mentions circumcision, arranged marriages, headscarves, honor killings, submission, and having no freedom to make her own decisions. when you think about a think like headscarves in islam, it is a little contradictory, because it is done supposedly because women are highly sexual beings who can't control themselves, and yet you have to hide a woman's beauty from the men. that kind of control over a woman's sexuality has been used across cultures throughout history. the whole "we give life thing" is just a theory as to why that custom has carried so much prevalence throughout human history. i'm not trying to be feminist here by saying we make the babies so we are more important, it takes 2 to tango. but maybe that clears it up a bit

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Originally posted by beats and beeps or were you just talking about on the tranceaddict forum?

yep.

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When I think about men and women's importance towards the creation of life, I envision some future dystopia where women have liquidated the men and frozen humongous vats of carefully selected sperm in order to proliferate the species for several thousands of years. It's cool - everything is aluminum and this whole planet is full of women who wear these really slutty space outfits - the true tragedy of it all though is that there's nobody there to appreciate their aluminum mini-skirts.

Well, maybe approximately 1 in 10 women remaining can appreciate it, but for the most part, their attire falls upon wasted eyed.

For some reason though, I don't think this is what ancient Islam had in mind regarding women and their placement in society though.

I still can't seem to understand the theory though. Apart from science fiction fantasies, there's really no reason for men to place women below them due to fear of life-creating...? Or did I miss the point?

I've heard of the really terrible things that women in Islamic nations experience, but I'd never actually figured that their clothing was some sort of torturous control. Of course I'd heard that before, and as you said, it was to control people's sexual urges - but I guess I'd always reasoned that it went both ways and that perhaps Islamic culture in fact valued women so much and realized their importance and perhaps even dominance in sexual activity. Islam is old - it's had a lot of time to recognize that what you don't see is sometimes more beautiful or more horrible than what you actually do see. I've read stories from The Thousand And One Nights and I dunno...never seemed as though Islamic culture was sexually repressive at all - that it in fact celebrated eroticism in pretty much any form you can think of and that it issued sexual duties for both men and women. For example, I've read that, in Islam, it's a male's duty to help his partner reach climax. I guess this could be a rumour, or of course could exist in only one sect/region where Islam is practiced (there are numerous groups all over the world), but in a book compiled with stories of lesbian sex and tales of men's love of their camels, it doesn't seem all that unbelievable.

Anyways, I don't know a whole lot on the subject, but I definitely agree that most cultures seem to have their way of subjugating women or keeping them in certain roles. Not that men are not subject to similar rules (generally nowhere near the amount, admittedly), but perhaps it exists far more in the social realm than it does within the actual interactions between men and women. Is it really so unfair to elevate individuals above their society? Or are each of us an inextricable part that must be considered at all times as a part of the whole? bah~

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I still think on the whole women are less creative than men. They aren't as lazy, are perhaps more ambitious yet they seem not to take as many risks. This could be all due to the environment/conditioning etc.

BUT: how come girls aren't funny?

Girls may laugh and have a sense of humour but aren't themselves funny, usually they are laughing at men.

There are many more male comedians than female. And usually, to be funny you need to be creative.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps well all the female artists im thinking of dont make a dollar from their music, so I have no reason to beleive they would do it for any other reason. also when they talk about making it they have a passion for the shit just like anybody else.

you talk about evolution? you just missed the train.

There are plenty of great female djs around that do it for music and not the money. I could name drop but I won't.

What's up with your 'even-lord-of-bass can do it' kinda shit, it's a buzz kill man.

I've never heard that pot makes you loose testosterone, sounds ignorant, sorry jmo.

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i think most societies have incorporated some form of repression of women's sexuality into their societies. with islam it is (in some cases) female circumcision/exision or wearing a headscarf or having to be escorted by a male to avoid being stoned, raped or harrassed. with christianity it is original sin, and the perpetual image of the virgin/temptress. there is no inbetween. i think as women, we hold the key to sustaining human life, and men were/are afraid enough of that to think to hold women back, to treat them like objects, to demean their existence, when in reality, without women, they wouldn't be here! i know you can turn that around and say women need men too, but honestly, we only need you for about 30 minutes, then it's all on us. did you know i think it's switzerland that only just granted women the right to vote in the 70s?! can you believe that?

I suggest you help break this repression by taking more pictures of your ass and posting them on the internet for me to fap to! YEAAAAAH! WOMEN RULE!

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Originally posted by nefardec As if that's even important in the entire argument of creativity and sex? One person's hobby? (not that i don't think it's awesome). Females express themselves differently. two words wendy fucking carlos

wendy carlos (aka walter carlos) isn't a female; rather a male to female transsexual.

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