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Originally posted by MarkT well, the gap is closing. Harris/Decima said 4% separates the CPC and Liberals? this could be interesting. If enough NDP and Green supporters reconsider and vote Liberal, Dion could pull this off. A Liberal minority that required support of either the NDP or Bloc (and a good faith effort by them to work together) to have a majority be my preferred outcome.

Oh Iam sooo hoping for this and it could realistically turn out this way from the way things are going now.

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read the news now, lol.

the CPC "cling to power" has officially begun.

Harper is stepping up the "Dion is not worth the risk" to "how does 'Prime Minister Dion' sound"?

so Dion apparently fucked up an interview pretty good in which he didn't understand the subjunctive question posed to him. They did 3-4 takes and naturally were asked not to air the goofed part...but an affiliate aired the entire interview which is apparently pretty comical and makes Dion look rather confused and unpolished.

Harper and his people pulled a TV into a hotel lobby, delayed a flight, and played it for the media present as evidence that Dion is unfit to lead the country.

lol...desperate?



edit: wow...here is. total non-story.



THe interviewer is an idiot. Dion asked a *perfectly legitimate* qualifier to clarify WHEN the interviewer is suggesting Dion would have been PM. yes, it's a hypothetical, but you have to consider the timeframe of being in power, retard.

if Dion had been in power all this time or if he was elected now, OBVIOUSLY there's a difference in how he would handle the current crisis. There's a difference between having your economic agenda in place 2.5 years ago and encountering it, taking over 2 months ago, or being elected now and dealing with it. That's all Dion was asking.

what a sham of a 'story', lol.

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LOL can't beleive you're defending Dion on this. If he can't understand a simple question that any 10 year old could, then he shouldn't be representing our country.

It's embarassing that this guy is the leader of the Liberal's.

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Lets see how low and dirty Harper will go to get more votes this election.His pals in the south are very desperate right now.Looks like he is in the same position up here too.

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Originally posted by Master Kush LOL can't beleive you're defending Dion on this. If he can't understand a simple question that any 10 year old could, then he shouldn't be representing our country.

Sorry but this whole thing tells us that Steve Harvey can't ask a question rather then Dion can't answer one.

Harvey starts with a big preamble in the present tense then asks "if you were prime minister today" (present tense) "what would you have done" (past tense) " that Steven harper has not done" (tense uncertain). What is he asking? Is he asking "if you were prime minister today what would you be doing now that Stephen Harper is not?" or is he asking "if you were prime minister at some point in the past what would you have done in order to prevent this crisis that Stephen Harper did not do?" The question as phrased did not make sense... essentially he's asking "if you became prime minister today what would you have done at some unspecified point in the past that the guy who was prime minister yesterday didn't do?"

I think it's perfectly legitimate that Dion asked for clarification. What really drives home the point that Harvey messed up in asking the question is when Dion asks "if I were prime minister two and a half years ago?" and Harvey says "no, if you were prime minister today" then the staffer (producer or writer I presume) later says "if you had been prime minister when Stephen Harper became prime minister," a direct contradiction of Harvey. The change in tense from present to past to uncertain confused Harvey so much that he doesn't even understand what he's asking.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by smuncky

i don't know about you guys but that looks terribly awkward and i am scared for that kitteh!

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Sorry but this whole thing tells us that Steve Harvey can't ask a question rather then Dion can't answer one. Harvey starts with a big preamble in the present tense then asks "if you were prime minister today" (present tense) "what would you have done" (past tense) " that Steven harper has not done" (tense uncertain). What is he asking? Is he asking "if you were prime minister today what would you be doing now that Stephen Harper is not?" or is he asking "if you were prime minister at some point in the past what would you have done in order to prevent this crisis that Stephen Harper did not do?" The question as phrased did not make sense... essentially he's asking "if you became prime minister today what would you have done at some unspecified point in the past that the guy who was prime minister yesterday didn't do?" I think it's perfectly legitimate that Dion asked for clarification. What really drives home the point that Harvey messed up in asking the question is when Dion asks "if I were prime minister two and a half years ago?" and Harvey says "no, if you were prime minister today" then the staffer (producer or writer I presume) later says "if you had been prime minister when Stephen Harper became prime minister," a direct contradiction of Harvey. The change in tense from present to past to uncertain confused Harvey so much that he doesn't even understand what he's asking.

i think most canadians are smart enough to figure out this. (well minus 1 now )

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Lets see how low and dirty Harper will go to get more votes this election.His pals in the south are very desperate right now.Looks like he is in the same position up here too.

Why not start with this?

September employment soars unexpectedly

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Finally, a piece of good news: Canadian employers created a blockbuster 107,000 new jobs in September, mainly part-time. The employment numbers blew away market forecasts, although the unemployment rate remained unchanged at 6.1 per cent. Economists had been expecting a small increase in the number of new jobs, of about 8,000, after a modest 15,000 increase in August. They had also forecast a slight rise in the unemployment rate to 6.2 per cent from August's 6.1 per cent ... The health care hiring erases job losses over the last three months. Employment in the sector is now 2.8 per cent higher than nine months ago. Manufacturing employment increased by 20,000, putting the number of jobs in the troubled sector at the same level as it was at the end of last year, Statscan said. ... ationally, wages surged as well, in September. The average hourly wage was 4.6 per cent higher in September than a year ago, far outpacing the recent 3.5 per cent increase in inflation. The strongest wage growth was found among youth and older workers, Statscan said. Overall, the job creation was broadly based, with 46,000 new jobs in the goods side of the economy, and 61,000 jobs in services. Young people fared particularly well in September. Employers hired an additional 45,000 people aged 15 to 24 in the month. Workers aged 55 and older found 41,000 new jobs.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess i think most canadians are smart enough to figure out this. (well minus 1 now )

Sadly, I think most Canadians won't ever hear/see the actual exchange; rather, they will simply hear that Dion had to restart an interview because he didn't understand the question. That said, this will really only bolster the positions of people who feel Dion is unfit to lead because his English is not strong enough... those people had made up their minds 22 months ago.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by exstasie September employment soars unexpectedly

While it sounds like good news I always wonder how many of those new part time jobs are actually just two part time jobs replacing a full time job that has been lost. I have 27 employees... if I replaced those 27 full time people with 54 part-time people I would have "created" 27 new jobs. So how many of these "new" jobs are actually employers replacing students who were working full time in the summer with a number of students now working part time?

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard While it sounds like good news I always wonder how many of those new part time jobs are actually just two part time jobs replacing a full time job that has been lost. I have 27 employees... if I replaced those 27 full time people with 54 part-time people I would have "created" 27 new jobs. So how many of these "new" jobs are actually employers replacing students who were working full time in the summer with a number of students now working part time?

I agree, those 54 part-time positions most likely 'create' 27 new jobs.

But you have to think of it in terms of individuals. There are 27 'new' individuals who now have jobs. Though, some of those 27 individuals might already have a part-time job.

I'm curious how many new individuals have entered the labour force vs. new jobs 'created'.

It is still a positive as it seems that there are quite a few unemployed individuals who are now working, even if it is just part-time.

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Originally posted by exstasie I agree, those 54 part-time positions most likely 'create' 27 new jobs. But you have to think of it in terms of individuals. There are 27 'new' individuals who now have jobs.

There are also 27 people earning approximately half what they were before, with no benefits.

Ultimately, the economy is growing so jobs are created; however, those numbers are misleading as the economy is not growing at such a pace as to account for that many "new" jobs.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down