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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I agree, a lot of it is just what critics would call "textual play", which is literature for the sheer joy of it.

maybe others would call it 'masturbatory'


not passing judgment though, i think its important for any art field to have such masturbatory experiments, they help to push the boundaries of its internal language and mechanics, as well as creative possibility and collective consciousness

just finished it



what an amazing book
667 pages totally flew by
I am now fucking fascinated by Tudor/Elizabethan England

going to rent the movie tonight

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Originally posted by Slylee oh well, different strokes different vaginas

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Female bodybuilding competition is the background for a tale of ambition, success, and failure. Shereel Dupont, a leading contender, has been trained to a fine-tuned perfection by Russell Morgan. At the Ms. Cosmos contest Shereel is confronted by her past as Dorothy Turnipseed--mother, father, sister, two brothers, and a former lover from the backwoods of Georgia. Bawdy humor is generated by the Turnipseed family, and conflict is supplied by Marvella, a big black woman who is Shereel's only real competition. The interplay among the leading characters is propelled with lean prose and dialog to an ending that is as shocking as it is inevitable.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

grabbed this the other day. very easy to read and informative.


i've realized i'm a total self help book type. i keep trying to get into novels and i can't do it. all the "how to" stuff i blow right through though.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by nefardec maybe others would call it 'masturbatory'

Of course. It's going back to the debate of whether art is only worthwhile or meaningful if it relates to something external to itself, or if it can be an end unto itself. Like all the modernists, Joyce was all for destroying traditional prescriptions of how art and literature should operate.

You know where I stand on that debate.

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Originally posted by Slylee grabbed this the other day. very easy to read and informative. i've realized i'm a total self help book type. i keep trying to get into novels and i can't do it. all the "how to" stuff i blow right through though.

If you prefer reading about foreclosures than devouring a good novel I think you need to find better novels to try.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis If you prefer reading about foreclosures than devouring a good novel I think you need to find better novels to try.

no i've read a few good ones it's just not my thing. maybe it will be when i get older. my mom is a fanatic. she has to have another book lined up before she is even finished with her current.

to me it's a form of entertainment/escape from reality and i try to keep my vices to a minimum. i pretty much come on TA for my little mental "getaway" and that's about all i can allow myself aside from music and movies. if i'm gonna read, i want to learn from it, that's just how i am i guess.


i know you learn from novels too but you know what i mean.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

This was recommended in an earlier book thread, and I've had it on my bookshelf for a few months now and am only just getting around to reading it. And it's absolutely fantastic - definitely met the high expectations set by whoever posted it before. The prose is fairly simple, but very rich.

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Next on the list. Any thoughts?

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Just finished this:



A good insight, and doesn't try to cover up the ugly sides of the business. Currently busy with this...



...which through pitch black humour and total grimness effectively eradicates all belief you previously might have had in humanity.

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