let me use raul as an example melly.

the guy was in A LOT of pain for a long time right? He ended his life because he could not deal with it anymore, not because he wanted to hurt your feelings, or his friends feelings. Did it hurt people? Yes...but it was his conscious decision to end his life because of HIS suffering. We all owe a death, doesn't matter who you are it is etched in stone.

It hurts so much that you want it to end. You don't think of friends, of family, or anything other than just not having to live with the shit one more day.

If your grandma is on life support and in tremendous amounts of pain would you pull the plug? Her death would hurt you too.

I understand you are upset and all, but no offense...you make more of a deal about how much it hurt you, but what about the hurt Raul was living.

The right to die is a choice i believe in. If someone truly does not want to be around anymore and is THAT miserable, is it better that they live their whole lives like that to make a few people happy?

It is a personal choice.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy I understand you are upset and all, but no offense...you make more of a deal about how much it hurt you, but what about the hurt Raul was living. The right to die is a choice i believe in. If someone truly does not want to be around anymore and is THAT miserable, is it better that they live their whole lives like that to make a few people happy? It is a personal choice.

I kind of have to agree with this one.

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Originally posted by jennypie I'm not wrong about shit, lol. I did very well in my mental health placement.

yeah, did you get your fisher price badge?


its obvious you're trolling. If you're actualy serious then you need a mental health assessment.

I'm not trolling at all. Fuck off Karim.

Its still a wrong choice when its just being an emo fag.

DA had issues he obviously never took care of in any constructive way. He was very destructive it seemed, at least thats how he portrayed himself here and other forums.

He was one of those types, at least for me, where it wasnt a question of if, but when. There just wasn't any helping it because he had no self will to help himself. He should have been placed in external care a long time ago.

People killing themselves over BS pussy shit like "ohh my GF broke up with me" is about as fucking sad and pathetic as you can get. My uncle did that. He was incredibly intelligent but killed himself during college over a girl. Fucking stupid. It fucked my moms family up so fucking bad. Yes there is a history of depression in her family (they are through and through Scandinavians after all), but still.

DA killing himself, actually his whole last few years to me seems like a big FUCK YOU to those who cared about him, and Jay trying to off himself over a girl is just as bad.

Suicide is a choice, a choice to fuck over those that do love you. Its never an option unless you are terminally ill, and if you choose to do it otherwise then you are making the most selfish and foolish decision you will ever make.

you guys still going at this?

I originally was going to say something to the effect of what Jenny said when it first happened but thought I let it slide, in respect for Raul and Melly. My take on the current topic is:

1. People who really commit suicide just do it, they don't write a note like Jay did. Those type of people are looking for pity/sympathy. Why else would they let everyone know?

2. Knowing that and knowing how recently an actual suicide did happen, confirmed #1. Because the natural reaction would be for members on this board to jump into action so it didn't happen again. Which they did, and in the end that's what Jay wanted.

Maybe I'm cynical, but knowing the history of the two individual and the outcome of each again it confirms my opinion. Was Jay in a bad way sure but how close he was to actually killing himself we'll never know but I have my suspicions.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy This is my last and only post I will make on this subject. Firstly, I would like to apologize for my actions in regards to that post that started this all. My state of mind at that moment had nothing to do with tranceaddict, nor with anything posted on it...including the jennypie thread. Did it bother me yes, but even at my weakest I am not or never was that weak to let something like that truly affect me. My condition is of my own doing... I do not feel the need to break down my life for all of you, but I will try and justify the note to hopefully put all of this to rest. I was in a bad place, and yes i did certain things to myself that made those actions (posting) seem rational at the time. I am not my online persona...i never was. I was at the end of my rope and i made a mistake. I did not want to send that to my ex, but i felt like i needed to get it out. I didn't speak to friends for fear that they might talk me out of it...once again my mistake. I never realized that TA would be able to intervene, so i dumped it here. To those that intervened , thank you. My head was not in the right place, and your actions helped me prevent any further damage to myself. I never intended it to be a cry for help, but it has become one, and hopefully one that will help me get over this hump. As embarrassing as admitting all of this is, having the cops and ambulance show up at my door prevented things from escalating and saved my life. Realize that no matter who we are, how well we live, we all have moments of weakness. There are no justifications for my actions, it all lies on my shoulders, and i know have to live with the ramifications of what i did to my body that night. To all of those i pissed off in my time here, i will not apologize. Throwing stones in glass houses or something like that right? I never thought my actions under any of the names i have had on this board would upset some of you as much as they seem to have...i suppose before judging my self admitted weakness, i suggest some of you look deep inside at the weaknesses in yourselves. I'm sorry if i made anyone worry, and I honestly never thought it would get around so much, way out of the spectrum of this site. I didn't care that night, and wasn't planning on sticking around to see what came after. A dick move for sure. I don't want any pity, i do not want anymore attention due to this, and I seriously do not care at any judgement of the post I am now writing and will not respond. None of that means anything, my problems are mine and mine alone. I probably should not have even bothered to post this. My only reasoning to this is I feel I owe it to those who took steps and gave a shit, when i was not even able or willing to give a shit about myself. I thank you, I am sure my family thanks you, for somehow managing to make a bad situation into a positive. As to the rest I don't really care. My being a cock on here was somewhat of a reflection towards the way i really felt about myself. Without naming any names, a few of you that act in similar ways to the way i did.... Sorry for the slylee post, but i feel like i needed it to be done. Once again i apologize, and thank you, you guys know who you are even if don't.

*grabs coat and walks out of thread*

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Suicide is a choice, a choice to fuck over those that do love you. Its never an option unless you are terminally ill, and if you choose to do it otherwise then you are making the most selfish and foolish decision you will ever make.

Dude, that is such fucking ignorant bullshit.

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Originally posted by jennypie Dude, that is such fucking ignorant bullshit.

How?

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Originally posted by epicaricacy until any of you are in that state of mind, you really don't know shit tbh.

Not true. My virtualization subroutines can fully emulate and analyze over 10,000 mental states per second.

This thread is going places.

I'm out.

Unless you have tried to kill yourself, you're not going to understand what someone who has tried feels like.

Feel lucky.

Cya in another thread.

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