Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Nuclear + Wind + Solar
I like wind, solar is good too, but we have the technology, we have had it for 50 years, raised in our very own backyard Lews to leave oil behind. Nuclear power should have been the answer 30 years ago but the fucking dumb ass NIMBY fuckhead women and hippy guys freaked out over politicized bullshit, more than likely funded by big oil.
Oil and the motor industries destroyed the American transportation and infrastructure network and slowed us compared to the rest of the world where they do not rely on oil nearly as much.
Its a sick addiction, its as bad as meth is to the individual.
Jun-01-2010 01:40
Lews
Platipus And Prog Addict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Hugging Whales And Saving Trees
I love how people blame environmentalists for this.
Uhhhh..... from the same article:
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Not that the environmentalists are the only ones to blame. Not by far. But it is odd that they've escaped any mention at all. The other culprits are pretty obvious. It starts with BP, which seems not only to have had an amazing string of perfect-storm engineering lapses but no contingencies to deal with a catastrophic system failure.
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Fucking bullshit excuse, looking for other people to point their fingers at to pass the blame along. "We didn't want to drill here! You made us! You forced us to do this!"
Fucking bullshit.
Is it really bullshit though? Why are we drilling 20 miles off shore and 5000 feet down, rather than on dry land where we've been banned for 30 years? NOT because of environmentalists!? They obviously aren't the only ones to blame- the questions being asked was, why don't they hold a shread of it?
Jun-01-2010 01:43
Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
Uhhhh..... from the same article:
Is it really bullshit though? Why are we drilling 20 miles off shore and 5000 feet down, rather than on dry land where we've been banned for 30 years? NOT because of environmentalists!? They obviously aren't the only ones to blame- the questions being asked was, why don't they hold a shread of it?
They are drilling in the south because there is no group of local governments or people that want them to NOT drill there. Its the poorest, most uneducated and well beyond oil, worthless parts of the country. You think they are going to say no to oil jobs?
Its only because the more affluent and intelligent parts of the country know its fucking insanely stupid to do it in their parts.
It is the environmentalists fault that they drill there, because they cant anywhere else, but its not their fault that this shit happened.
Jun-01-2010 01:50
Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Why are you lecturing to me about oil lol.
I don't even drive a car! I hate oil.
More using your comment as an excuse to continue grand-standing.
Jun-01-2010 01:50
The17sss
C.R.E.A.M.
Registered: May 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
They are drilling in the south because there is no group of local governments or people that want them to NOT drill there. Its the poorest, most uneducated and well beyond oil, worthless parts of the country. You think they are going to say no to oil jobs?
Its only because the more affluent and intelligent parts of the country know its fucking insanely stupid to do it in their parts.
It is the environmentalists fault that they drill there, because they cant anywhere else, but its not their fault that this shit happened.
I smell the foul odor of elitism in that statement. I didn't realize it was about educationl pedigree. Dude, I didn't say it was totally the environmentalists fault that the explosion happened... I know they had nothing to do with the construction of the damn oil rig and its safety measures. The point is, look at the unintended consequences of environmental chic: more people are actually being affected now by a catastrophe happening far out at sea than if the explosion happened in Alaska's ANWR region where it's a barren wasteland the size of South Carolina.
Jun-01-2010 01:54
The17sss
C.R.E.A.M.
Registered: May 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
I don't even drive a car! I hate oil.
Oil is involved in everything you do and have, from your clothing and cell phone to your computer and your grocery store being stocked. You'd be surprised at what types of businesses grow because of the investment derivitives from oil companies... or how many peoples' 401K's depend on the profitability of the oil companies; it wouldn't be uncommon at all for "green" companies like Starbucks or First Solar to have their employees' 401K's invested in Exxon.
Jun-01-2010 02:05
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
I smell the foul odor of elitism in that statement. I didn't realize it was about educationl pedigree. Dude, I didn't say it was totally the environmentalists fault that the explosion happened... I know they had nothing to do with the construction of the damn oil rig and its safety measures. The point is, look at the unintended consequences of environmental chic: more people are actually being affected now by a catastrophe happening far out at sea than if the explosion happened in Alaska's ANWR region where it's a barren wasteland the size of South Carolina.
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Jun-01-2010 02:07
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
I don't even drive a car! I hate oil.
Where would modern medicine be without plastic?
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Jun-01-2010 02:12
Lews
Platipus And Prog Addict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Hugging Whales And Saving Trees
quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
Uhhhh..... from the same article:
Is it really bullshit though? Why are we drilling 20 miles off shore and 5000 feet down, rather than on dry land where we've been banned for 30 years? NOT because of environmentalists!? They obviously aren't the only ones to blame- the questions being asked was, why don't they hold a shread of it?
I read the whole article. And yes, it's really, complete, utter bullshit. Environmentalists aren't to blame at all. Not one bit. Saying otherwise is just bullshit.
