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culorut
Supreme tranceaddict

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Location: right here
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Sep-12-2008 18:12
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{b.s.e.}
savant garde

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Source
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so i'm assuming no one bothered to read the background info on the Commission?
There really is no discussion here, 7 years after the fact.
You can bicker over semantics, and split hairs, and make distract yourselves with statistics; that's not the issue.
it was an inside job and you're a holding back the human species if you think otherwise.
Thomas Kean, Chairman of the Commission
Before taking his current
position, Thomas Kean
was a director and part
owner of Amerada Hess, a
company that maintained a
partnership with Delta Oil
of Saudi Arabia. Since that
is the home country for
most of the alleged 9/11
hijackers, and since the Bush family has
close business ties to Saudi elites, many
people would think that this is already a
serious conflict of interest.
Together with UNOCAL, Delta Oil in the
mid-1990s began negotiating deals with
Central Asian governments, looking to
acquire pipeline rights out of the world's richest
remaining store of undeveloped oil fields.
The favored plan was to get the oil to a port
in Pakistan - meaning, through Taliban-controlled
Afghanistan. The Taliban were courted
in the late 1990s by a number of American
oil projects, including UNOCAL’s. But their
hardline behavior ruined their international
image, and the companies backed off.
When the Bush administration came to power
in 2001, it opened new pipeline negotiations
with the the Taliban. Despite awards to
Afghanistan of $143 million in U.S. aid in the
first half of 2001, the Taliban refused to
accept the U.S. proposal of a joint government
with the Northern Alliance. They broke
off the back-channel Berlin talks in June. At
the time, a U.S. representative promised that
the Taliban had a choice between “a carpet of
gold or a carpet of bombs.”
The White House has admitted that documents
placed on Bush’s desk on Sept. 9, 2001
detailed a plan for attacking Afghanistan by
mid-Oct. 2001. Significant deployments to
the region of U.S. and British forces were
already underway. All that was missing for an
invasion was the casus belli - the cause for
hostilities. That arrived two days later, in
New York, in the form of the 9/11 attacks.
/excerpt
that's just one of them. You can toss in a lawyer representing a firm that was once retained by Enron, a Republican Sen. turned lawyer,
of the Seattle firm of Preston, Gates and Ellis, which counts among its clients both Delta Air Lines and the Boeing Employees’ Credit Union. ..it goes on...
the conflicts of interest are laughable. if you think these people would give a fair and just report on the happenings, you're off your rocker.
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Sep-14-2008 04:42
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pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion

Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
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| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
this isn't a conspiracy theory, you twats. lol. this is real life. if you weren't already aware that pearl harbour was an instrument to jump into the war, or that the government planned to hijack an american airliner and blame it on cuba, or of the hundred or so proxy wars/coups they've taken part it, not to mention the contras, i can see how you might think a bunch of pissed off muslims managed to pull the Biggest Big Dirty ever. |
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.
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Sep-14-2008 05:22
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shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan

Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
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| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
this isn't a conspiracy theory, you twats. lol. this is real life. if you weren't already aware that pearl harbour was an instrument to jump into the war, or that the government planned to hijack an american airliner and blame it on cuba, or of the hundred or so proxy wars/coups they've taken part it, not to mention the contras, i can see how you might think a bunch of pissed off muslims managed to pull the Biggest Big Dirty ever.
unfortunately this is not the case, and mercifully for the neocons, you and the majority of americans are absolute mouth breathers.
it's so frustrating to meet people so blithely ignorant of what their senses are telling them.
when was the last time there was such a staunch belief that the government and the corporate world was screwing them over? |
Never underestimate the power of denial... or the absurdity of irrational views people desperately cling on to... or the ability copy / paste .
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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller
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