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Is this even real?

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK seconded. i wouldn't class those tracks as classics. good, but not classics. lol @ the people suggesting "oh he has good taste in music so he must be right". bad arguments all round. It's all in the interpretation of what "classic" means, imo.

Thing is, they are not classics for the epic trance people, but most probably classics to the people that were clubbing back in the early 90s. I can't give a full opinion on that cause i've only started clubbing like... in 2003

There's some absolute gems in his list tho.

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK seconded. i wouldn't class those tracks as classics. good, but not classics. lol @ the people suggesting "oh he has good taste in music so he must be right". bad arguments all round. It's all in the interpretation of what "classic" means, imo.

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for ppl that started listening to trance yesterday they are propably not classics.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 for ppl that started listening to trance yesterday they are propably not classics.

Define "classics". If this thread defines classics as "good tracks" then this thread would be as irrelevant as any other "bestest ever" TA thread. If it's recognised historic classics, many of the tracks a former incarnation of Radagast mentioned don't qualify either, because they are just old tracks that people consider good. But then again, most of the tracks people have mentioned in this thread aren't historic classics, just tracks people consider good.

The point? Everyone is a hypocrite, and so the tracks probably stand. But if they did, you'd have to acknowledge the shite many people have posted as classics.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Define "classics". If this thread defines classics as "good tracks" then this thread would be as irrelevant as any other "bestest ever" TA thread. If it's recognised historic classics, many of the tracks a former incarnation of Radagast mentioned don't qualify either, because they are just old tracks that people consider good. But then again, most of the tracks people have mentioned in this thread aren't historic classics, just tracks people consider good. The point? Everyone is a hypocrite, and so the tracks probably stand. But if they did, you'd have to acknowledge the shite many people have posted as classics.

for me a classic track is the same as a pinoneering track. one which breaks new ground for forthcoming tracks.
that's why I consider labels such as Eye Q and Superstition as classic labels. Most of their stuff shaped the trance we know today. Just take examples such as Vernon - Vernons Wonderland, Cygnus-X - Superstring/The Orange Theme. These are tracks which stood the test of time. They sound just as great as they did over 10 years ago. And the fact that they've also been re-released numerous times speaks for itself.
I agree that loads of tracks mentioned in this thread are neither groundbreaking or can hold the title of a classic.
still Radagast mentioned more classics than anyone else did in just one reply.

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to those that say this isn't a good list of classics...well...do what i started doing and make your own personal list in excel hehe...i've got hundreds of tracks from each year that i think i great and are to me classic...

What Raddy seems to have missed here is that old =/= classic. I'm not going to comment on the stuff others have named, since they didn't show the "I'm right and if you disagree you're an idiot" attitude.

There are plenty of great oldschool goa tracks for example. Yet only a few are "classics"

Classic:
1. Belonging to the highest rank or class.
2. Serving as the established model or standard
3. Having lasting significance or worth; enduring.

That's how "classic" is defined. In other words, it is clearly put some effort into, was something new at the time, pushed the scene forward, and still doesn't sound old.

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Originally posted by DJ Cinos That's how "classic" is defined. In other words, it is clearly put some effort into, was something new at the time, pushed the scene forward, and still doesn't sound old.

just what i wrote in my post above you ;P

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by the very nature of the definition of 'classic', any trance classics should ONLY include standard- or genre-creating productions and should NOT include any material that does neither. i don't pretend to know a sufficient amount of early standard- or genre-creating trance, but intuition tells me that any respectable and credible 'classic' trance list should only list pre-97 productions. anything newer is probably a copycat or a groundbreaking production that establishes a new branch in the EDM universe.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange by the very nature of the definition of 'classic', any trance classics should ONLY include standard- or genre-creating productions and should NOT include any material that does neither. i don't pretend to know a sufficient amount of early standard- or genre-creating trance, but intuition tells me that any respectable and credible 'classic' trance list should only list pre-97 productions. anything newer is probably a copycat or a groundbreaking production that establishes a new branch in the EDM universe.

So essentially there can be no recent innovative/groundbreaking trance, because any such tracks become their own genre/subgenre?

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Originally posted by GrimReaper I think Nell could be the best to really sort this out, he knows Salt Tank guys personally. But yes, those 3 sound right for me too. Although there are several versions of Eugina and everyone like a different version.

He's a guy?