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nic01445
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Registered: Mar 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Good deeds,Don't get you into heaven. do you understand that?


i would rather rot in hell than go to heaven with a god that denies people of good merrit, simply because they do not believe in jesus.

quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Again,God sent Jesus to die on the cross for us, so that none of us would have to go to hell. So, if people don't choose to accept him, that's their own fault. Not his. He won't interfere with freewill. You have to remeber that.


i have a question. Do you believe that God know everything that has ever happened, and everything that will happen? Because, if he does, then that means that your destiny is predetermined. Which means that every movement you make God knew you would do before hand. Which means that free will is just an illusion.

Old Post Mar-01-2004 22:53  Antigua
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MisterOpus1
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quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
I did answer his question.Maybe he just didn't like my answer.
God allows all those who have asked Jesus Christ into their heart,and repented of their sins.

Good deeds,Don't get you into heaven. do you understand that?


Yes. Thank you. So I guess I can go ahead and murder, rape, and cut up into pieces innocent people as long as I accept Jesus some time before I die. Cool. I guess I DO actually like this Christian God afterall. I mean, if he allows men to do it to innocent concubines like they did in Judges 19:22-30, why can't I?

Yea Christianity!


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tathi
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9/10 Criminals prefer christianity

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nic01445
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quote:
Originally posted by tathi
9/10 Criminals prefer christianity


because it looks good to their probation officer

Old Post Mar-01-2004 23:36  Antigua
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WhoaNellie1487
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Yes. Thank you. So I guess I can go ahead and murder, rape, and cut up into pieces innocent people as long as I accept Jesus some time before I die. Cool. I guess I DO actually like this Christian God afterall. I mean, if he allows men to do it to innocent concubines like they did in Judges 19:22-30, why can't I?

Yea Christianity!

No,that's not what it means.
10 commandments, and it's not just those that set down rules/laws.
God doesn't want you doing those things. Once you make it right with God, you don't do those things. You have no desire to.

God will forgive you of your sins, but He also doesn't want you committing them. Further more, God knows your heart.


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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487

Good deeds,Don't get you into heaven. do you understand that?


LOL yes. I would love to hear what jesus would say about this. What a compassionate God the "christian" God is . I would rather rot an enternity in hell with the people who do good rather than stand the stench of hypocrisy in a "utopian" heaven surrounded by murderers, pedophiles, and rapists who sell out their beliefs to escape damnation. It's nothing but an overglorified system of bribery. Rather pathetic actually that people think like this since a morally just and "good" God is antagonistic to this behaviour.


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Krypton
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LOL yes. I would love to hear what jesus would say about this. What a compassionate God the "christian" God is . I would rather rot an enternity in hell with the people who do good rather than stand the stench of hypocrisy in a "utopian" heaven surrounded by murderers, pedophiles, and rapists who sell out their beliefs to escape damnation. It's nothing but an overglorified system of bribery. Rather pathetic actually that people think like this since a morally just and "good" God is antagonistic to this behaviour.


u have no idea of the concept of god's mercy. u havnt the faintest clue. jesus died for OUR SIN. SO THAT WE COULD BECOME RIGHTEOUS. because only the righteous are allowed into heaven. sin is sin. unlike humans, god views all sin the same, as equal. therefore, lying is the same as murder, to god. that is why ANYONE CAN BECOME SAVED. this was the exact arguement between the pharisees and jesus. the pharisees doctrine was to judge people based on the seriousness of their sin, which u are indirectly saying in this post. but jesus's message was for EVERYONE. the sick, healthy, poor, and rich, criminal, or law-abiding citizen. it doesnt matter who you are, or what u have done, if u accept jesus as your lord, and personal savior, savior from sin, hell, then your plate is wiped clean...u are reborn, from your sinful, hopeless, lost living, to the hope of eternal life. something we all should look forward.

instead you only look forward to the present, and the next 60 some years of your life, god-willing. if u live to be 80 year old. great!! im glad thats all you worry about!! but i have my future already made. and its not for the next 80 years. its for the next 80 years, and the next 80 years, and the next 80 years, x10, x100, x10000, 100000, x.infinite. and there is such thing as infinite, it is proven in the science of black holes.

John 3:3
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.

1 Peter 1:23
For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
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Krypton
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I want all of you to think long and hard about this passage. long AND hard.

Romans 2:5
But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.

one day, if still you have not accepted the reality of god, one day u will. he will be revealed to you, right in front of you. as u wanted. u will SEE him, TALK to him, FEEL him, HEAR him. that will be your proof. u want science, u want evidence, u want this and that. YOU WILL GET SOMETHING EVEN BETTER THAN THAT!! u will see him right there in front of you, in your face, asking u what. what to what? u will find out.

i give u evidence. from the bible. and thats the only evidence i need. ask me any question and i bet u, i will have a response directly from the bible. so dont get mad, because i have ONE SOURCE thats the most crediable source living man has in its precious possession.
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My challenge for you is to ask me any logical, intelligent question, anything pertaining to the subject. and i will answer you from the bible. not from myself, or from any human being. and i want you to know. the bible isnt a "book" it is the Word of God. when i quote the bible, that is the literal speaking of god. the bible is god "speaking to you" believe it or not.


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tathi
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quote:
one day, if still you have not accepted the reality of god, one day u will. he will be revealed to you, right in front of you. as u wanted. u will SEE him, TALK to him, FEEL him, HEAR him. that will be your proof. u want science, u want evidence, u want this and that. YOU WILL GET SOMETHING EVEN BETTER THAN THAT!! u will see him right there in front of you, in your face, asking u what. what to what? u will find out.

i'm talking to god face to face now, in fact i'll let him write a couple of words to you

quote:
Originally Posted by God
You are an indoctrinated fool

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WhoaNellie1487
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Originally posted by occrider
LOL yes. I would love to hear what jesus would say about this. What a compassionate God the "christian" God is . I would rather rot an enternity in hell with the people who do good rather than stand the stench of hypocrisy in a "utopian" heaven surrounded by murderers, pedophiles, and rapists who sell out their beliefs to escape damnation. It's nothing but an overglorified system of bribery. Rather pathetic actually that people think like this since a morally just and "good" God is antagonistic to this behaviour.


Fine,you can go to hell in a handbasket,but I'm not going with you. It's your choice what happens to your soul,but I warn you. Choose wisely, Despite what you think. I do care what happens to you,and everyone here.

It's not hypocrisy. Sin is sin,my friend. There is no,Big sin,no little sin. It's just the consequence for each sin is different.
Trust me,each person will pay for every sin they've committed. One way,or another. Personally,I don't care how long it takes a person to realize they need the Lord. If it has to be on their death bed,then so be it. But, I pray they get to heaven.

God is good,God is fair. Life isn't fair,I think you are getting the two mixed up here. If you ask for forgiveness for your sins,God will forgive you. Of course,you must learn from your mistake,that's very important.

But, The fact of the matter here is. Good deeds will not get you to heaven.It's only by the saving grace of God you'll get to heaven.

There's an old saying "The pathway to hell is paved with good intentions " ever heard it?
We all sin, we're all sinners. But, it's a matter of if you learn from those mistakes,and ask for forgiveness.

I hope you really read what I'm saying,and really think about it here before it's to late.


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WhoaNellie1487
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quote:
Originally posted by tathi
i'm talking to god face to face now, in fact i'll let him write a couple of words to you

Of course we all know this is fake. Mainly, because you can't look God in the face. It's not possible,we're way to unholy.


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tathi
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where is your evidence?

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