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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (culorut vs PKC)
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culorut
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Registered: Jan 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.


LOL, what a kunt.

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culorut
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Jesse Ventura BODY SLAMS “911 Conspiracy Debunkers”


Jesse Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, ex Navy Seal Vietnam Veteran, Demolition Expert and an avid spokesperson for 911 Truth.

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{b.s.e.}
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Registered: Oct 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.


uh huh. so we're going to ignore the hilariously massive finite problem of London running terror-response drills the very same day it actually happened?

You honestly can't draw the comparison?

This is hilarious.

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{b.s.e.}
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quote:
Originally posted by culorut
LOL, what a kunt.


yeah, smacks of effort.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
uh huh. so we're going to ignore the hilariously massive finite problem of London running terror-response drills the very same day it actually happened?

You honestly can't draw the comparison?

This is hilarious.


10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes


8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.


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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes


8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

Yup, that's exactly what you Arabs with box cutters conspiracy theorists did. No evidence whatsoever, but you jumped to the conclusion anyways .


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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Yup, that's exactly what you Arabs with box cutters conspiracy theorists did. No evidence whatsoever, but you jumped to the conclusion anyways .


yeah, and i suppose the videos made by some of the hijackers admitting their plans are all fakes that were made by actors paid by the american government.

im sure i could find at least one characteristic you just displayed, but im sure you've seen them all by now


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shaolin_Z
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, and i suppose the videos made by some of the hijackers admitting their plans are all fakes that were made by actors paid by the american government.

im sure i could find at least one characteristic you just displayed, but im sure you've seen them all by now

You mean the fictitious list of characteristics based on a fictitious label by a disingenuous group of paranoid delusional out of touch with reality. If any of us identified with those labels, you might have a point. Otherwise it's just a desperate stawman and attempt to marginalize, something state whores are all to willing to indulge in. All that list is is a reflection of your own insecurities and paranoia .


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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Lebezniatnikov
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quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Jesse Ventura BODY SLAMS “911 Conspiracy Debunkers”


Jesse Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, ex Navy Seal Vietnam Veteran, Demolition Expert and an avid spokesperson for 911 Truth.



As a Minnesotan, I'm here to tell you that you just lost the last shred of credibility you may have had.


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culorut
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
As a Minnesotan, I'm here to tell you that you just lost the last shred of credibility you may have had.


If it is the last bit of credibility I lost solely to you then I could not really care. I am not here to make friends but to engage in a topic that hard headed individuals cannot see through and post what is relevant and is present in our world today.

Maybe what you should be paying attention to is what your ex-governor thinks of the GOP and the BS official 9/11 story. We need more in your face, tough as nails and will not take "no" for answer guys like Ventura questioning 9/11.

The truth about 9/11 strikes the nerves but I for one have never heard anyone say it was going to be easy to swallow.

Get out while you still can, it's going to get better. (for the truth)


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by culorut
If it is the last bit of credibility I lost solely to you then I could not really care. I am not here to make friends but to engage in a topic that hard headed individuals cannot see through and post what is relevant and is present in our world today.

Maybe what you should be paying attention to is what your ex-governor thinks of the GOP and the BS official 9/11 story. We need more in your face, tough as nails and will not take "no" for answer guys like Ventura questioning 9/11.

The truth about 9/11 strikes the nerves but I for one have never heard anyone say it was going to be easy to swallow.



hey look! single-issue sally is back again!

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Get out while you still can, it's going to get better. (for the truth)


deluded single-issue sally at that!


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{b.s.e.}
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hey look! single-issue sally is back again!


you're an ignorant fuck, masquerading as a scholar.

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes


8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.


ahhhhh, it makes sense now! you've repeated yourself so many times that i finally understand!

this is what is known as denial. i'm a little worried about you.

and a little amused.

dooo gooo onnnnn.....




quote:

deluded single-issue sally at that!


i implore you to read the pdf on the 9/11 Commission pdf that i've provided.

cold hard facts are better than a tumour in your asshole.

figure that one out.

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