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AwakenedAddict
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Location: Berkeley, California

quote:
Originally posted by thesauce23
Self Control- the most powerful thing in the world! If its hard for someone, they are either weak-minded or just lack self control. Not a judgement, but my perogative.


Indeed.


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CAKE
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Registered: Nov 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by cyper
See, i've had nothing but good experiences with drugs, and with people who use drugs.

As for clubbing. I find people who drink alcohol alot more irresponsible and dangerous then I do people who pop E.
In fact I perfer dancing and partying with a bunch of e-tards then with alcoholics.


I totaly agree there.... in Kitchener we have no EDM clubs, well purple room one night a week, anyways all the bars in town always have fights....i don't see fights as often at edm events vs regular clubs .... i see ppl giveing out hugs more lol


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tatgirl
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Washington DC

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Originally posted by Skipper
While I admire your intentions for this thread Nat, with all due respect, no one owes you an explanation, and you don't have the right to demand one. You absolutely have the right to express concern if you feel concerned, but demanding explanations and pointing fingers just makes people defensive and often just leads to people getting themselves in even further. You can't force people to change their behaviour - they have to do it on their own.

If you've had offline discussions with these people you are concerned about, I don't see any incremental benefit to airing the issue online when it is clearly embarassing certain individuals.


You're right- I dont expect people to live life according to my rules, nor does anyone owe me an explanation. I never asked for one. I'm just stating that justifications were given when discussions arose (and these are discussions that others have had with people, not me).

For the record for the last time- I'm not pointing fingers at any 1 person (or circle of friends) or any 1 residence, therefor I don't want others thinking that only those certain individuals are who I'm talking about. Nor am I here to embarrass anyone. I'm sorry I mentioned Tony Island here, directing attention in a specific direction- because it is MANY OTHER people who have taken that term and abused it.

Do I have any expectations or demands by posting this? No. But I dont think some discussion about the matter is such a bad thing. Sometimes we need to keep ourselves in check, which is all I was trying to say, since things seem to be spiralling out of control for a lot of people in general.


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Dj Smitty20
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This is an interesting thread and thought I'd chime in, even if I don't really know any of you personally and have no idea who this post is directed at.

I used to be against all forms of non-alcohol related drug use and I even looked down at my brother and his friends, who are near-daily weed smokers. I've never been sold on marijauna because it turns me into an unmotivated, dumb, lazy ass. I was always too scared to try E or coke and was never really exposed to it, plus my parents were the typical 70s/early 80s drug loving partiers and it came close to ruining my dad's life before I came into the picture. My attitude changed for Tiesto's party last June and I tried E for the first time. It was great, absolutely fantastic and I've done it...about 8 times in total since then, but never more than one pill in a night and it's doubtful I'll ever do more than 2 and even that's pushing it for me. I've dabbled into the coke too but that's definitely not something I could afford regularly and it's way too short acting to be of any fun value for a party like last week's Decadence.

My "crowd" has changed somewhat recently too. Most of my friends do use drugs recreationally but we're all fairly new to it all, having avoided it entirely in high school. It's intersting because at a typical afterparty we might attend, it's acceptable and even encouraged to be on a pill or bust out a few lines, smoke a joint, etc. But one guy got thrown out because he was smoking crack. To me, it seems as if E and coke are more socially acceptable in party situations but certain drugs like crack, G, heroin are looked down on. I"ve made this obsveration a few times among different crowds of people who party to the music we all love here.

But I have a question. What do you guys think is "acceptable" use of drugs? One pill once a month...two pills once every two months? A gram of coke every few weeks between a buddy or two? What is pushing the limit? I mean...for example, my ex gf almost flipped when I told her casually that I had "experimented" a bit into drugs but from my perspective, I've hardly been exceeding saftey levels. But I also have a friend (not close but we're buddies) who purchases an 8 ball every week or two. To me, that seems a bit much and not just the money factor. My point is that every time you see some people who might be going overboard, there's always people who are way worse off.

One final observation, just from London here. I'm not sure how Toronto is, but has cocaine made a huge comeback or did I not notice it in my drinking-only days? Every time I go to use the bathroom here at our big club, the Phoenix or the Barking Frog, I hear snorting or see coke residue on the dispensers. I never, ever saw evidence of this when I first started drinking 5 years ago, but maybe I was too drunk.

Anyway, it's good to discuss these things once in awhile though. Nice thread.


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jon jon
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^ BAHAHAHHA


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^ BAHAHAHHA



yes?


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jon jon
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dude, you fucking make me laugh


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I'm not sure how Toronto is, but has cocaine made a huge comeback or did I not notice it in my drinking-only days?


well i never noticed so many users of it as i do now. even the random people that inquire at clubs has increased lately


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Jer
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Location: London Town

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
I'm not sure how Toronto is, but has cocaine made a huge comeback or did I not notice it in my drinking-only days?


Nope. London is Colombia Jr. nowadays.

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Tordan
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dude, you fucking make me laugh

he did ask some valid questions. i don't think he deserves to be laughed at.


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Dj Smitty20
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Originally posted by jon jon
dude, you fucking make me laugh


if me just being honest is funny, well ok

and LKD, I guess I'm not the only one then. In the Guv main room during Sander's set, I saw more than one person openly snorting something (proabably coke) using some kinda of a...snorting tool that I've never seen. And I was asked SEVERAL times by randoms if I had any to sell. I also had a conversation with a random in the bathroom begging me to sell him G and he refused to believe me when I told him I'd never even seen it and had no idea what it looks like.


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I do think it's the wrong thread though...

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