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Originally posted by Clovis It gets old

I absolutely agree. That is what I identified as being the source of my frustration. Many times there is zero thought that goes into the reviews (whether good or bad). Especially the reviews in which someone doesn't like something. It's all gravy when everyone who posts says they like the track (without really saying why...) yet, the moment a very popular DJ releases something, what do we hear from naysayers? "It's crap". To be honest, I really haven't read many thoughtful reviews in the forum lately...

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Originally posted by Clovis I disagree. No artists will ever get blind support from me, I don't care who the fuck they are.

Agreed. I don't think that what I wrote meant that I feel that we should blindly support artists regardless of what sort of tracks they produce. If you like it go buy it, and show your support that way. If not, don't. I am not asking anyone to do that.

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Originally posted by Clovis The people who are probably most enraged by an artist releasing a sub-par album are usually people who have been following them for a long time, I'd bet longer than you have, and I think they have every right to voice their disgust.

I've been following Paul's music for some ump-teen years since the Dubmission parties thrown by Jurgen Kramer (or whatever his name was) when the sets first started coming out, and then even more when he started appearing on the MoS radar. I didn't really love the album, yet still I respect the guy enough to give a decent review, instead of a thoughtless two word quip. That is what is irritating. That is what people get defensive over. It's not insecurity, it's normal people reacting to things that are offensive and rude.

If I was to listen to your sets (which I have) and tell you I hate them (which I don't), I think you would be a bit defensive. You might think, that maybe I just don't understand what you were trying to do, or that maybe I am just so used to hearing Tiesto sets, so I can't appreciate the talent and skill that went into it. I think that if all I said in my reply was 'It's sh**' you might ask me why I think so, or look for some way to improve. That maybe I heard something in your mix that you didn't catch etc... Or lastly you might come to the conclusion that I am obviously stupid and completely insensitive to what other people think.

Which is exactly the conclusion which dawns on me, when people write, just that (i.e. "it's sh**").

yeesh. Very bland, very boring, and unimaginative.

I guess it might've already been discussed but Get Back w/ Alex MORPH sounds far too similar to A Life Less Ordinary (Alex MOPRH/Rank1)
I don't think I've listened to an entire Vondyc Radio set, but I stumbled upon his tracklist history, looks like he's become the commercial douche he's been so fond of criticizing in the past.

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Originally posted by WardC this was Paul's album, him being #1 engineer studio supremo, the lead guy, the brain beind the bang.

what makes you think he engineers his tracks?

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Originally posted by WardC That's my review for now...basically wanted to show the evolution of the PVD "artist album" to show how we have gone from a 100% PVD-worked, studio engineered mainfloor epic, driving, danca album....to what we have here today, some what of a mixed-up, multi-dimensional, collaborative hybrid of a beast that is more of an easy listening deal than a trance journey. Peace, -Ward

he didn't engineer his first albums all himself.

For Example:

Paul van Dyk - 45 RPM
Label: MFS
Catalog#: MFS 7066-2
Format: CD, Album

Country: Germany
Released: 05 Dec 1994
Genre: Electronic
Style: Trance
Credits: Artwork By - Marc Schilkowski
Co-producer - Johnny Klimek (tracks: 3, 6, 8 to 10) , Voov (tracks: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 11, 12)
Engineer - Johnny Klimek (tracks: 3, 6, 8 to 10) , Voov (tracks: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 11, 12)
Producer - Paul van Dyk
Vocals - Natascha Seidel* (tracks: 1, 2, 7, 10, 12)
Written By - Paul van Dyk

http://www.discogs.com/release/221703

Edit: decided to take the pictures off (I had posted some shots from the Cuba Photoshoot/booklet that comes with the In Between album, about 9 or 10 photos of Paul in there...I felt like I might be breaking some copyright by posting them on here, so they are off, for now.

Last edited by WardC on Aug-15-2007 at 00:00

itunes features "in between" unmixed, almost club mixes!

i should have pre-ordered to get the "next generation" exclusive track

fuck

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Originally posted by wotyzoid I'd rather get a legal coppy of Out There and Back.

i hope u get a letter from RIAA before that happens

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I did hear EoL and I rate that much higer than this overhyped snoozefest. And no, I didn't particularily like EoL either.

^tiesto fan-boy

Yeah, I just downloaded the version from iTunes, when I saw the tracks were significantly longer...(ex. "Far Away is 3:32 on the regular CD mixed version, the iTunes version is the full unmixed version, and it's 8:17, same thing goes for La Dolce Vita and pretty much every other track) The iTunes version is still 17 tracks, but it's a total of nearly 2 hours of audio, where the CD version is like 1 hr 17min...so if you are a die-hard fan and want the full-length versions, say, to use for a DJ mix or just to listen to the actual real cut of the track, you should check out the iTunes version. It's also alot cheaper at $9.99 and it's really good quality 256k AAC. In my opinion, the quality of the mixing on the CD (the storebought mix CD) is nothing spectacular, it's certainly not an "Out there and Back" quality of mix, the CD's selections are random in style and don't really make a great mix on the clubbing scale, but, they ARE mixed to sort of make it flow. My advice, if you haven't gotten "In Between" yet and are thinking about it, get the iTunes version. It's cheaper and alot more "complete" (ie. full versions of tracks) - the version floating around on torrent is the standard mixed version, not the full version feat. on iTunes store. The iTunes album download w/booklet is right at 223MB, much larger than the leaked standard versions on torrent, which are also lower quality. Also, remember, artists need to make money to keep producing, and PvD has done alot for the EDM scene through the years - the $10 for the iTunes CD is basically a no brainer, it's a good deal.

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Originally posted by WardC Yeah, I just downloaded the version from iTunes, when I saw the tracks were significantly longer...(ex. "Far Away is 3:32 on the regular CD mixed version, the iTunes version is the full unmixed version, and it's 8:17, same thing goes for La Dolce Vita and pretty much every other track) The iTunes version is still 17 tracks, but it's a total of nearly 2 hours of audio, where the CD version is like 1 hr 17min...so if you are a die-hard fan and want the full-length versions, say, to use for a DJ mix or just to listen to the actual real cut of the track, you should check out the iTunes version. It's also alot cheaper at $9.99 and it's really good quality 256k AAC. In my opinion, the quality of the mixing on the CD (the storebought mix CD) is nothing spectacular, it's certainly not an "Out there and Back" quality of mix, the CD's selections are random in style and don't really make a great mix on the clubbing scale, but, they ARE mixed to sort of make it flow. My advice, if you haven't gotten "In Between" yet and are thinking about it, get the iTunes version. It's cheaper and alot more "complete" (ie. full versions of tracks) - the version floating around on torrent is the standard mixed version, not the full version feat. on iTunes store. The iTunes album download w/booklet is right at 223MB, much larger than the leaked standard versions on torrent, which are also lower quality. Also, remember, artists need to make money to keep producing, and PvD has done alot for the EDM scene through the years - the $10 for the iTunes CD is basically a no brainer, it's a good deal.

Is it already out in the US?

Here in Germany(!) it's about to be released on August 24th...

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Originally posted by movingincircles ^tiesto fan-boy

LOL I reeeeally hope you aren't serious.