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Originally posted by DigiNut "Monogamous" relationships before marriage are actually a pretty new concept. As others have pointed out, polygamy was the norm for a very long time, and even several decades ago, when people were "dating" it was expected that they would see other people. Maybe not bang them, but everything else leading up to it. You may not agree with it but I don't think you have the right to claim that it's morally wrong, or some horrible symptom of disintegrating moral fiber in society.

I don't believe in god. Any god. I believe in science, evolution and myself.

Sanctity, whilst it's origins have religious connotations, does not mean 'holy' to me, rather just living life as well as you can with maximum happiness for you and minimal hurt for those you love as well as strangers.

I knew there would be some asshole that rips apart an otherwise informative and deep thread by picking up the actual definition of a word and highlighting it. Never once did I claim that it was morally wrong. Disintegrating moral fiber in society? Perhaps. People's lack of ability to make decisions and stick by them? Absolutely.

I don't think you have the right to enter a thread with your arrogant and attention-seeking manner. In fact, fuck off.

Malek, you too. Pathetic, you both are. Trawling this board, bottom-feeding off whatever you can nit-pick at. Sad really.

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Originally posted by English Rachel Is there no sanctity in the world any more? Are we just animals wanting to 'spread our seed' or 'explore our kinky side'. Fuck, I am dirtier than most but I genuinely, GENUINELY have NO IDEA how you can love someone with all your heart and want to be with them yet still want to share physical passion with another. Am I crazy? I certainlt feel it at the moment.

This may shock you, but there is more to consider than just "sex on the side." On a fundamental level, love and kindness are not finite resources. If you love someone you can still love another without diminishing the strength of your other relationship. Social context is what tangles this sort of thing up... anyway, what I'm saying is that there are open relationships where people satisfy various sexual interest in others in a safe/sane/consensual way... but there are also open relationships where those involved may form additional relationships outside that which is sometimes (for the sake of convenience) referred to as the "primary" partnership. These can be fulfilling, long-term, genuine, "real" relationships built on top of existing long-term commitments! (Oh, and they don't need to be physical relationships, though they often are.) In truth, the possibilities for conducting different types of human relationships are endless. The only limiting factor is time--everything else is negotiable.

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Originally posted by basilisk the possibilities for conducting different types of human relationships are endless

Of course, still doesn't mean that I (me, myself, this person here writing this) has to agree OR understand. I do neither.

For the 50th time this thread, I don't judge people who choose to do this, I just don't understand it. I don't understand why people would want to strangle themsleves whilst masturbating for a bigger orgasm. I don't understand wanting to inflict pain or have pain inflicted on you whilst having sex. There are lots of things in the world that I don't understand. I am not asking you to try and make me understand, I was just saying that I don't.

And judging by the responses after me, there are many people that don't understand it too.

The beauty of humans and their differences.

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Ah yes, the 'open relationship' that does extend beyond just sex. My friends brother is bisexual, married to a women, has kids. Now and then he has boyfriends. Not just 1-off hookups, but some rather long-term things.

The kids know about it also - although they are in their teens, from what I gather, they didn't get told about this when they were 5 or anything like that.

While I personally wouldn't be comfortable having that type of relationship (at least at this point in my life), if it's whats working for them - more power to them, and I'm not going to judge them for it. I can see in some ways the preference to this type of thing than just a purely physical nature though.

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Originally posted by English Rachel Of course, still doesn't mean that I (me, myself, this person here writing this) has to agree OR understand. I do neither. For the 50th time this thread, I don't judge people who choose to do this, I just don't understand it. I don't understand why people would want to strangle themsleves whilst masturbating for a bigger orgasm. I don't understand wanting to inflict pain or have pain inflicted on you whilst having sex. There are lots of things in the world that I don't understand. I am not asking you to try and make me understand, I was just saying that I don't. And judging by the responses after me, there are many people that don't understand it too. The beauty of humans and their differences.

It's one thing to say "I dont understand, but live and let live" - which is the attitude I'm getting from you, and perfectly cool with.

Then, there are other people in this thread that are "I just dont understand, (insert trolly remark here), wtf is up with you?" .. which isn't so cool.

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Originally posted by kaniz It's one thing to say "I dont understand, but live and let live" - which is the attitude I'm getting from you, and perfectly cool with.

That is EXACTLY what I am saying.

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Originally posted by English Rachel I don't understand why people would want to strangle themsleves whilst masturbating for a bigger orgasm. I don't understand wanting to inflict pain or have pain inflicted on you whilst having sex.

That is alright; I am not taking what you write as an attack or anything. But as much as you do not understand auto-erotic asphyxiation or sado-masochism, I think the idea of having more than one loving relationship is perhaps a little more, er, wholesome than the examples you provide

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Originally posted by basilisk That is alright; I am not taking what you write as an attack or anything. But as much as you do not understand auto-erotic asphyxiation or sado-masochism, I think the idea of having more than one loving relationship is perhaps a little more, er, wholesome than the examples you provide

I chose those examples of sexual deviance as one is JUST YOU and the other is YOU AND YOUR PARTNER - to me, on a 'wholesome' scale, they are moreso than being 'open'.

Remember too, that this thread was started with the topic of 'cheating' and then 'open' relationships. If I am reading into your posts correctly, I believe you are talking about perhaps mormon beliefs where there can be multiple wives - that is completely different but STILL something I don't understand.

I disagree with you. Let's just leave it at that

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Originally posted by English Rachel Of course, still doesn't mean that I (me, myself, this person here writing this) has to agree OR understand. I do neither. For the 50th time this thread, I don't judge people who choose to do this, I just don't understand it. I don't understand why people would want to strangle themsleves whilst masturbating for a bigger orgasm. I don't understand wanting to inflict pain or have pain inflicted on you whilst having sex. There are lots of things in the world that I don't understand. I am not asking you to try and make me understand, I was just saying that I don't. And judging by the responses after me, there are many people that don't understand it too. The beauty of humans and their differences.

Rachel, you always struck me as a sexual person....there must be some kinda kink in you!! lol

I also dont really get the "extreme" kink (ie: dressing up as babies?? extreme pain, urinating on people, etc etc.....) But again, if I am going to expect people to be open-mineded, then I suppose I have to as well.

In certainly not looking forward to the day I open my practice and someone comes in talking about beastiality or some shit....and I will have to nod my head, smile, and jot down notes on my notepad like nothing interesting came outta his mouth. . haha weird ass people out there!

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby Rachel, you always struck me as a sexual person....there must be some kinda kink in you!! lol

There is babes, absolutely there is. I have a fetish for outdoor spaces and public places (I have no desire to be watched though, just the thrill of maybe getting caught). We also have our homemade porn collection and my need/desire to 'get off' every day!

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Originally posted by English Rachel I don't understand why people would want to strangle themsleves whilst masturbating for a bigger orgasm. I don't understand wanting to inflict pain or have pain inflicted on you whilst having sex.

It's biology, baby!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadomasochism#Biology




I personally find it hard to believe that most couples who've been together a long time DON'T engage in some kind of "deviant" sex. More than 3 or 4 years of doing the same old boring shit?? Laaaaaaaaaame.