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Originally posted by jennypie For real Nou, you don't get it. Stfu.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby No they have some other condition, thats treatable, or at least can be controlled to some degree. That or they are mentally weak.

So why shouldn't suicide be a viable option? Some don't want to take pills or go to therapy. What's wrong with just wanting to die? Have you ever known a severely depressed or mentally fucked person?

What do I not get? I think I get it very fucking well. I think we all get it. I think though that we all have different opinions on the validity of suicide as a means for dealing with a situation.

Getting mad, Nou? Calm down, princess.

much of the stigma attached to suicide is because of religious beliefs. In many cultures suicide is not frowned upon and in some cases even considered hounorable.

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Originally posted by jennypie Because it's not YOUR choice.

how can suicide not be the choice of the person doing it? and honestly, i believe that thinking about how other people will feel afterwards is the last thing on their minds at the moment they swallow the pills or pull the trigger, since they have already taken the decision to end their life.

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Originally posted by jennypie So why shouldn't suicide be a viable option? Some don't want to take pills or go to therapy. What's wrong with just wanting to die? Have you ever known a severely depressed or mentally fucked person?

Yes, but how many of these people that kill themselves actually seek the right treatment. A lot of this stuff that people don't deal with can be helped with out pills in therapy and other activities.

If the person is out and out totally mentally compensated than yes, they should be allowed to kill themselves. They are no longer viable genetic stock and their persistence is only a drawback to human propagation and advancement. I mean thats a viable way of looking at it as well right? Maybe we should cull the mentally ill, depressed people? Put them in the same camp as the autistics and down syndromes people were in during the Nazi eugenics programs?

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Originally posted by epicaricacy much of the stigma attached to suicide is because of religious beliefs. In many cultures suicide is not frowned upon and in some cases even considered hounorable.

this is true. mayan culture believed suicide was the only way into heaven, suicide by hanging was especially honorable

Of course. And the problem with a guy like Nou is not that he thinks suicide is wrong...it's that he obviously hasn't thought about or examined the values underlying his beliefs.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy in some cases even considered hounorable.

certainly not your case though. had you gone through with it that is..which is good that you didn't.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I mean thats a viable way of looking at it as well right? Maybe we should cull the mentally ill, depressed people? Put them in the same camp as the autistics and down syndromes people were in during the Nazi eugenics programs?

Uh, how you even got to this point I don't know.