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Originally posted by DOOMBOT What does industry have to do with this? I've been to Brazil multiple times and fail to see the connection that you are trying to make between their industry and gun violence.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT What does industry have to do with this? I've been to Brazil multiple times and fail to see the connection that you are trying to make between their industry and gun violence.

more poverty in Brazil.

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Originally posted by Desiderata more poverty in Brazil.

Poverty, industry; what is the point being made? If the gun laws in that country are more restrictive to gun ownership, making it more difficult for citizens to obtain them, why are deaths by gun a major issue in this country?

What does poverty have to do with gun violence people!
Poverty is a virtue! Have you not read the bible? These people are happy!

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Because burgeoning industrialization tends to create an immense class rift in a developing country, thus leading to gentrification and widespread poverty that breeds further criminal activity enforced and enabled by the threat of weaponry, illegal or otherwise. The US is still very much a developing nation in this light; look at post-industrial capitals like Detroit. The homicide rate there enabled by guns is catastrophic, and it has a lot to do with conservative ideals that marginalize the opportunity and provisions for lower-income citizens.

Poverty tends to fester with violence more than any other humanistic or social symptom you can come across; it's precisely why, in the study I linked earlier, residences with multiple people living in them, related or not, are vastly more often to be host to homicide and death by firearm than any other representation of legal or illegal gun ownership. It's why you can pull out factoids like 'owning a gun is x times more likely to increase your chances of being killed with a gun'; it's an issue statistically compounded by the marginalization of minorities and those of lower socio-economic status, and in the US largely compounded further by the ease of access to firearms that many Americans perceive to be their unalienable right. They just tend to glance over the "well-regulated" clause though, which I am perhaps taking out of context, but it's all in there, in spirit.

There are well over 15,000 homicides in the US each year due to gun violence, and only 1% of those are victims of "mass" shootings. It's good that the discussion in the wake of this latest school tragedy is setting a fire under the debate, even if it is vastly emotionally-charged, and I hope that it persists into something of substance, but individual homicides are by and large the worst symptom of America's gun culture. It's too bad that it took a few dozen white children to die just to get anyone to talk about regulation.

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Originally posted by Bierheld What does poverty have to do with gun violence people! Poverty is a virtue! Have you not read the bible? These people are happy!

Mother Theresa said poverty was great for the suffering and diseased denizens of Cambodia! Well, they're certainly closer to her God when they're dead, and she pocketed millions from private donors.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Because burgeoning industrialization tends to create an immense class rift in a developing country, thus leading to gentrification and widespread poverty that breeds further criminal activity enforced and enabled by the threat of weaponry, illegal or otherwise. The US is still very much a developing nation in this light; look at post-industrial capitals like Detroit. The homicide rate there enabled by guns is catastrophic, and it has a lot to do with conservative ideals that marginalize the opportunity and provisions for lower-income citizens. Poverty tends to fester with violence more than any other humanistic or social symptom you can come across; it's precisely why, in the study I linked earlier, residences with multiple people living in them, related or not, are vastly more often to be host to homicide and death by firearm than any other representation of legal or illegal gun ownership. It's why you can pull out factoids like 'owning a gun is x times more likely to increase your chances of being killed with a gun'; it's an issue statistically compounded by the marginalization of minorities and those of lower socio-economic status, and in the US largely compounded further by the ease of access to firearms that many Americans perceive to be their unalienable right. They just tend to glance over the "well-regulated" clause though, which I am perhaps taking out of context, but it's all in there, in spirit. There are well over 15,000 homicides in the US each year due to gun violence, and only 1% of those are victims of "mass" shootings. It's good that the discussion in the wake of this latest school tragedy is setting a fire under the debate, even if it is vastly emotionally-charged, and I hope that it persists into something of substance, but individual homicides are by and large the worst symptom of America's gun culture. It's too bad that it took a few dozen white children to die just to get anyone to talk about regulation.

OK, so let me ask you a question. Should the gun regulations in Brazil be even more restrictive then they are today? If so, what type of effect do you think it would have and why?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On she pocketed millions from private donors.

Nuns' habits don't have pockets.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

DOOMBOT once again tries to contribute meaningfully to a conversation and fails miserably.

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Originally posted by UWM DOOMBOT once again tries to contribute meaningfully to a conversation and fails miserably.

Is this also an argument?

Criticizing someone for trying to contribute something meaningful to a topic by posting something meaningless to everything. Brilliant.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

My spider sense warned my both my name and my country were mentioned.

I'm short of time right now, but we're not a good example to this debate. Our gun-restricting laws are actually quite good (as out laws in general tend to be), but we don't have the means to enforce them. I'm sure that's not a problem in the US of A.