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Originally posted by Skipper I do think it's the wrong thread though...

I only read the first two pages so if I'm being offensive, sorry. I just thought that the point of her post was to remind people to use drugs recreationally to enhance the experience rather than let it run their lives.

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Originally posted by Tordan he did ask some valid questions. i don't think he deserves to be laughed at.

Ben please, you don't even know why I'm laughing at this clown boat. Please please don't make me dig up that thread. PLEASE!

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 I only read the first two pages so if I'm being offensive, sorry. I just thought that the point of her post was to remind people to use drugs recreationally to enhance the experience rather than let it run their lives.

Of course, but you yourself have to define the line between recreational use and abuse. TOTA can't do it for you - and from the sounds of it, this is probably the wrong board to ask for advice on moderation anyways, considering the "crisis" at hand.

hi jon

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Originally posted by jon jon Ben please, you don't even know why I'm laughing at this clown boat. Please please don't make me dig up that thread. PLEASE!

i think we all know...but meh...

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I think each person should evaluate why they choose the drugs they choose, and why do they use drugs at all.

That's a diffucult thing to think about because you always want to say: I just use to enhance the fun I am already having, all my friends are doing it so I have to be in the same frame of mind as them to hang out, I am experimenting,.......all reasons why you start doing them.

The bad reasons are: I am trying to forget about something, I want to have an explanation for when I do bad things (blaming on the drugs), I don't think my friends will be my friends anymore, I want to relive the first time I tried anything, I want to stay up with everyone so I don't miss anything funny or fun......

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Originally posted by Skipper Of course, but you yourself have to define the line between recreational use and abuse. TOTA can't do it for you - and from the sounds of it, this is probably the wrong board to ask for advice on moderation anyways, considering the "crisis" at hand. hi jon

No no, I was just curious to see other people's opinions.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 But I have a question. What do you guys think is "acceptable" use of drugs?

I would suggest that "acceptable" is a highly liquid term. To me, I would view drug use as being acceptable if the following conditions are met:
1) drug use does not create problems with daily life
2) drug use does not create problems with family/friends/loved ones
3) user can afford the substances consumed without appreciable impact on higher priorities
4) user understands the drug and dangers associated with it's use and takes all reasonable steps to insulate themselves from said dangers
5) the intention of the user is to enhance experiences rather then distract from dealing with other problems
6) user is in control of their consumption rather then the other way around

Granted the above is not the be all and end all and certainly only pertains to my own judgment criteria as to whether or not someone has a habit or a problem. Your criteria may differ.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by jon jon Ben please, you don't even know why I'm laughing at this clown boat. Please please don't make me dig up that thread. PLEASE!

I believe I already addressed that issue last summer. Those were my opinions back then but they aren't mine now. Sometimes even the most stubborn people have rude awakenings.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I would suggest that "acceptable" is a highly liquid term. To me, I would view drug use as being acceptable if the following conditions are met: 1) drug use does not create problems with daily life 2) drug use does not create problems with family/friends/loved ones 3) user can afford the substances consumed without appreciable impact on higher priorities 4) user understands the drug and dangers associated with it's use and takes all reasonable steps to insulate themselves from said dangers 5) the intention of the user is to enhance experiences rather then distract from dealing with other problems 6) user is in control of their consumption rather then the other way around Granted the above is not the be all and end all and certainly only pertains to my own judgment criteria as to whether or not someone has a habit or a problem. Your criteria may differ.

I'd say that pretty much hits the mark. At the very least its a good outline. Sometimes its hard to take a step back and evaluate these things ...

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Originally posted by YouReadyB

If I ever hear about "falling off the horse" again dude...
If you ever want to escape reality...Cribby will take you there...sober

As far as this topic goes...I <3 Nat. I totally agree with every point you've made. I'm no God...but I'd like to think that I'm a good influence on the friends and people that dance around me at clubs. Almost always, I'll be sober and last until the wee hours of the morning. I love to see the expressions on people's faces when I tell them I'm 100% sober. In some cases, the next time I see those individuals, they choose to party sober and join me. Feeding off of one's energy is the best ecstasy Maybe if a whole bunch of us crazy folk get together and do this then it could create a ripple effect? I'd like to think so...

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* {Edit} Just an FYI to all of those who don't know...Tony Island is a BLOW UP AIR MATRESS!! A place to sit or lay with there is not enough room on chairs or couches. That is all!!

I am living proof of someone who's made a "trip" to "Tony Island" while being sober. LOL I was lying there chatting up Sarah and a few other peeps and if you recall, I was totally sketched!!!! LOL!!! Can you be sober AND sketch?!?!