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Originally posted by isoterra i said preset, not concept.

That is a preset.

Take two saw waves, overlay them, detune one 50 percent above the other, and run them through an ADSR envelope, with lots of attack and sustain.

Save as a patch in Roland JP-8000 analogue modelling synthesizer. Pass around to Dutch friends. Import into Native Instrument's Pro 53 subtractive virtual synth. Fiddle around with minor chord progressions (chiefly D minor) until something uplifting occurs. Voila: A genre is born.

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Originally posted by isoterra anyway it was rank 1, not ferry... but who's counting.

Ferry's System F, Albion and Gouryella productions predate them by several years.

Who do you think Rank 1 got the "Airwave" sound from?

And does it seem more than a coincidence that not soon after Tiesto's been hanging around with Ferry that all of a sudden his tracks have the same sound quality as Ferry's productions?

Producers trade sound files and samples like cards. Why bother spending several stupid hours recreating a specific sound from scratch, after all, when you can just borrow the original source patch from the guy who made it?

Ferry's "supersaw" preset is like a really famous photoshop plugin...addictive, but overused, and I don't think it's really impressing people anymore.

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Originally posted by RapidFire and what exactly are you trying to say about them?

that they are not stupid just because they don´t care.

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Originally posted by paulandrews that they are not stupid just because they don´t care.

no one said they were.

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Originally posted by BrenLuxor Thats more or less what even the mainstram music media and musicians began to say regarding the 'rave' culture at this period.

Yup, but who exactly?

My point is that I was talking about a classical composer or an interpreter of the classical music. I think many of them would say that all the edm is crap because it has no live instruments, it has not any emotions and so on.. And now there are people talking about the ASOT generic stuff etc and it´s imo a nice parallel. I still think there are artists nowadays who´re pushing the genre and all the edm forwards.. Trance is not dead, nothing like that is happening right now, there are only people who are just bound to their musical beginnings (emotionally as well, that´s why because they can´t stand the world is changing without them and why they whine all the time).

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Originally posted by RapidFire no one said they were.

Ishkur did. He said that stupid people like crap music. And for him, the Tiesto remix of Silence is crap.

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Originally posted by Ishkur That is a preset. Take two saw waves, overlay them, detune one 50 percent above the other, and run them through an ADSR envelope, with lots of attack and sustain. Save as a patch in Roland JP-8000 analogue modelling synthesizer. Pass around to Dutch friends. Import into Native Instrument's Pro 53 subtractive virtual synth. Fiddle around with minor chord progressions (chiefly D minor) until something uplifting occurs. Voila: A genre is born.

Yeah, the best things in the world are sooo simple

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Originally posted by paulandrews Ishkur did. He said that stupid people like crap music.

thats generally true.

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Originally posted by paulandrews And for him, the Tiesto remix of Silence is crap.

thats a matter of taste.

and with that said I dont see what that has to do with people who dont care about labels.

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Originally posted by RapidFire thats a matter of taste. and with that said I dont see what that has to do with people who dont care about labels.

oh yeah, i know that. just wanted to give a full answer in case you wouldn´t know what i´m talking about again

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Originally posted by paulandrews Yup, but who exactly? My point is that I was talking about a classical composer or an interpreter of the classical music. I think many of them would say that all the edm is crap because it has no live instruments, it has not any emotions and so on.. And now there are people talking about the ASOT generic stuff etc and it´s imo a nice parallel. I still think there are artists nowadays who´re pushing the genre and all the edm forwards.. Trance is not dead, nothing like that is happening right now, there are only people who are just bound to their musical beginnings (emotionally as well, that´s why because they can´t stand the world is changing without them and why they whine all the time).

Either Im not explaining myself correctly or your just not seeing my point.
Anyways whichever it is I was just giving my slant on this thread, all the best.

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Originally posted by skip

pretty much...