Germany owed this win entirely to the actions of two men: Torsten Frings and José Pekerman. That's all there is to say about this match really.

you forgot lehman, he saved 2 out of 4. It all came down to the goalies and he did the difference.

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Alright, three men

Torsten has been really impressing me so far. He's looking a lot better than that overrated pretty boy Ballack imo.

Lehmann had penalty taker notes

Keeper Jens Lehmann was handed notes before each kick to give him an edge in Germany's shootout win over Argentina.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foo...any/5136802.stm

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Originally posted by fastmp3 Lehmann had penalty taker notes Keeper Jens Lehmann was handed notes before each kick to give him an edge in Germany's shootout win over Argentina. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foo...any/5136802.stm

Yeah old story, over here we knew it 24 hrs ago.


Following possibilities what's on the note:

- nothing, just a psycho trick to make the shooter inconfident

- notes from the scouts how each argentinia player shoots his penalties

- just good wishes from the coaches

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Originally posted by malek you forgot lehman, he saved 2 out of 4. It all came down to the goalies and he did the difference.

And Lehman was in the right corner all 4 times!!!

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Originally posted by malek you forgot lehman, he saved 2 out of 4. It all came down to the goalies and he did the difference.

you're right, he was great, but those were the only 2 saves i remember him making the entire tournament.. i've heard people before saying lehmann is the best player of the cup so far which is completely batshit insane.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 you're right, he was great, but those were the only 2 saves i remember him making the entire tournament.. i've heard people before saying lehmann is the best player of the cup so far which is completely batshit insane.

Yep he isn't the best keeper of the World Cup. Of course he has the potential to be it, but he don't get enough shots on the goal to show how good he is.

It's hard for keepers in teams with a good defense to proove how good they really are.


In 2002 only because of the bad german team (to be correct: VERY VERY bad) Kahn got the chance to proove his skills!

its true lehman made only a few key stops during regular play time, but thats not entirly his fault.

he gave 3 goals all in all during the whole cup (not counting pk), thats very solid.

but at the end of the day, when it mattered the most, he made those saves in PK.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 you're right, he was great, but those were the only 2 saves i remember him making the entire tournament.. i've heard people before saying lehmann is the best player of the cup so far which is completely batshit insane.

Ricardo is the best keeper upto now...

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Originally posted by caudio Ricardo is the best keeper upto now...

ricardos just a good shot stopper, his handling is shaky at times.

i thought the best keeper debate was settled a long time ago